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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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All right, guys.
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Today we're going to be talking about the hashtag #MeToo movement.
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Okay.
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So I know I've gotten a lot of questions about this.
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I've had guys ask me about kind of what my thoughts are on this, but you know, there's
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no better time than exactly this exact moment, because we might be looking at one of the most
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ridiculous circumstances that's happened potentially because of this movement.
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And we'll get into that here in just a second.
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But for some of you, you're not even going to know what I'm talking about.
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So when I talk about the #MeToo movement, I think most of you know what I'm talking about,
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but I don't want to take that for granted.
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So let's talk about where this all started because it actually started well before where
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most people thought it started.
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So where this all started was with someone named Tarana Burke.
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I think I'm saying that first name right, but it's Tarana Burke.
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And she is a social activist and a community organizer and you know, kind of one of those
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types of folks.
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And she started using the phrase #MeToo on MySpace back in 2006.
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So we're going, we're going all the way into the way back machine, going back to MySpace.
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But this was something that she used at the time.
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And she was mainly using this in reference to women of color that she saw had been sexually
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abused or sexually exploited.
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And so that was something that she started to use, but I mean, essentially it never gained
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any traction.
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Like it was just something that she said.
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She kind of coined the phrase and its use, but essentially there was nothing that was
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done about it.
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There was even a little documentary at the time.
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I think it was in 2006, maybe in 2007 that was going into this concept, but most people
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were generally unaware of it until obviously it became part of common vernacular here in
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2017, which would have been last year, okay.
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So the hashtag #MeToo thing became a thing on the heels of all of the sexual assault
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allegations against the, you know, the big time Hollywood producer, Harvey Weinstein.
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Harvey Weinstein, Weinstein, excuse me.
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So with Harvey Weinstein, we got these accounts from these women and it wasn't just a few
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women.
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It was lots and lots of women that he had done horrific stuff to.
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So some things were just crass and kind of gross and really just kind of icky dude.
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But then there were other times where it seems pretty clear that he not only sexually assaulted
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people in certain ways, you know, unwanted touching things like that, but that he actually
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raped women.
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And so I have to say he was, you know, that's alleged at this point because he has not been
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convicted of anything, but essentially it's pretty clear that this was something that was
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going on.
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And so the hashtag #MeToo went viral in October of the same year.
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So these allegations came out in October of 2017 and the hashtag basically became common
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when actress Alyssa Milano, when she encouraged women to post their stories using the hashtag.
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So posting their stories about how they had been sexually assaulted or taken advantage
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of or abused and using the hashtag #MeToo at some point in the story.
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And the reality of it was is that millions of people responded.
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I mean, immediately there were hundreds of hundreds and then thousands and thousands
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and then tens of thousands and then hundreds of thousands and eventually millions of people
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used this hashtag to talk about things that had gone on in their lives whenever they were
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taken advantage of.
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And this included a lot of celebrity.
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So some very famous celebrities.
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You got Ashley Judd, Jennifer Lawrence, Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie, Uma Thurman, Reese
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Witherspoon.
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I'm just trying to think of some, but those were some of the people that kind of came
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out.
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But also those were just the women.
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So there were also some men that came out.
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So a couple of guys, you might know Terry Cruz and James Vanderbeek, a couple of actors.
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They came out to talk about some things that had happened to them where they had some unwanted
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sexual, sexual things that were happening, right?
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And so the thing about this movement is I feel like it started in the right place.
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And the immediate fallout that happened right after this, it really kind of went into some
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areas where it needed to go.
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It's like we needed to let the wildfire burn and just tear some stuff down.
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So really the fallout started in Hollywood, right?
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Yeah, Brett Weinstein and Weinstein, sorry, I keep saying that, but Brett Weinstein and
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you had all the things that were happening there.
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And it was just, it was a really just an interesting time to hear Hollywood, which obviously always
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tries to tell the rest of the country, especially the middle of the country how to act and how
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to be.
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And obviously, since basically back as far as Hollywood goes, there's been something called
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the casting couch.
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And it was something that was just kind of a common thing that, you know, young ladies
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or even young men would have to do sexual acts on some of these older directors or producers
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to get jobs in Hollywood.
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Like that was just like a thing.
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It was like a joke until it wasn't, right?
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Until these horrible stories came out and then, you know, all of a sudden we have to
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react negatively to it, even though it was gross and sinful and satanic the entire time.
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Yeah, let's freak out about it now.
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Okay.
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So that was a little bit, you know, a little bit dishonest from the Hollywood people from
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the Hollywood elites, but I don't really care if it was dishonest as long as it was
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leading to some good things.
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Because here's the thing.
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It spread from Hollywood and spread into the music industry and to churches, the military
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academia.
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I mean, all these different areas and some of them had adjusted the hashtag to be more
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applicable to their exact situation.
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But that was something that was really important that there were people that had been silenced
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that were either scared to come out.
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They didn't feel like they could.
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They didn't have the courage to sue men and women.
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And it was a good thing.
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I mean, pretty much every workforce that includes both men and women had to do something to
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respond to this because there were always allegations whenever these two types of people
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were in the same place working at the same time.
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And don't get me wrong.
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I'm not going to say that.
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Yeah, I'm there.
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I'm not about to come up and say, Hey, we should separate men and women in the workplace.
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That's not something I would ever suggest.
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But that was something that was interesting is that it had to basically be talked about.
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I mean, there was a huge story in sports.
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There was the US gymnastics doctor, Larry Nassar.
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He was the Michigan State doctor that was found out because of the Me Too movement.
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I mean, this was a guy that sexually assaulted hundreds of young girls over his career, hundreds.
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And the stories that have come out since then have been absolutely terrifying.
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But he was found out because of this movement.
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I mean, I mean, we could probably assume that he would have been found out eventually.
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But let's just say for the sake of argument today that he wouldn't have say that he wouldn't
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have been found out.
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I mean, this is a really, really good thing that the Me Too movement happened.
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Because this guy was found out to be the unbelievable evil creep that he was, right?
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And this is something that hasn't just stayed within the United States.
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This is something that is spread all over the world.
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I mean, when I was researching, doing this podcast, I was blown away at some of the countries
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that had some form of this hashtag that came on the heels of what had happened, you know,
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about a year ago.
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And so, I mean, we have Canada, China, Japan, Israel, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Russia, Vietnam,
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even Afghanistan.
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I mean, there was all kinds of things like this and there were so many people, so many
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evil vile people that were, you know, taking advantage of individuals.
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And they were being found out because people were getting the courage to do something about
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it.
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And guys, if you've forgotten my opinions on rapist and things like that, I'd encourage
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you to go back to the podcast I did on the stuff that's going on right now in the Catholic
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church.
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I mean, I think that there should only be three options for people that are raping individuals,
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especially kids, they should either be castrated, killed or castrated and then killed, right?
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So those are my only options that I have for these people.
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But really, if we go from the very beginning, I think that this was a good movement.
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I really think that this was a good movement.
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It had, you know, it was just kind of like this groundswell that there wasn't like this
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nonprofit that kind of created this and it started with a viral video and then they kind
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of went from there.
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It really was just kind of a groundswell.
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But if we're being honest sitting here as I'm recording this in September of 2018, I think
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the MeToo movement has gone out a little bit over its skis.
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Okay.
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So there are a lot of problems that we have seen in the recent history that and that will
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lead us to what we're going to be talking about mainly today with what's going on with
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Judge Brett Kavanaugh, but there's really a lot that needs to be discussed here about
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what's going on.
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And so there's several problems that I want to kind of point out that have really reared
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their, it's ugly head since the MeToo movement started.
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But these are really things that have kind of been exacerbated in the last six months.
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And one of those things is that it's, it's tended to equate all forms of sexual abuse
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into the same pot.
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So if someone makes an off color comment to you in the office, whether male to female,
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female to male, male to male, whatever the thing might be, that there's kind of this
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equating of this to actual physical assault.
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So if, if a gal in my workplace walks by and go, Hey, I like where that whatever comes
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from.
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I don't think some stupid, just think of some stupid comment that you've heard in your
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office when you work with gross dudes or maybe you've said it before, right?
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You just a comment like that, not saying that it's appropriate.
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But there's been some equating of that to someone actually physically putting hands on
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somebody else when it's not wanted or even raping that person.
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And so it seemed to have leveled all sexual abuse in the same category.
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And even, I mean, Matt Damon got crushed for this, but he made some comments a while ago,
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basically talking about how we need to be careful, how we categorize these things that
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we shouldn't put all of these things into the same pot that there are different levels
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when we're talking about sexual abuse and he got so ceremoniously destroyed for this.
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When his comments were absolutely true, you can't say being held down and physically raped
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is the same as somebody, you know, basically being bad at flirting.
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You can't equate those things.
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He even had to, you know, post a retraction of his, of his things, of his comments and
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say, Oh, I guess I didn't understand where I was coming from.
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Well, I was like, no, dude, you understood everyone's just too sensitive.
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And another problem that I'm seeing seeing with me too right now is when regret becomes
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sexual assault, right?
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So you'll have somebody after the fact regret a physical act that they did with somebody
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else and then all of a sudden it becomes sexual assault.
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And this happened to a comedian and actor Aziz Ansari.
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And so this is a guy that there was a story that it came out on like babe.net or something.
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It was some ridiculous website and it's like, of course, that would go viral from babe.net.
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But this was back in January where there was a story about Aziz Ansari took this gal out
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on a date.
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He asked her back to his apartment.
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She agrees to go back to his apartment.
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They go to his apartment.
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I think they have a couple more drinks.
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And then they start doing sexual things to each other, right?
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And you know, it kind of in this story describes the different things that were happening sexually
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at one point in the middle of one of the sexual acts that girls like, I don't really know
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if I should be doing this.
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And apparently Aziz and she even admitted that he just goes, okay, okay, cool.
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And then you don't have to do it, right?
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But then, you know, he starts coaxing her into it and, you know, basically pursuing
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her and then they start doing the sex acts again.
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And then she goes through with all the things that they, you know, mutually decided to do.
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And then after the fact she tried to claim that Aziz Ansari sexually assaulted her.
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Like even after acknowledging that he offered to say, okay, well, then we can just stop.
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Would you like me to get you a car to take you home?
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You know, that type of a thing.
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And so it was obvious that this girl was feeling some shame over the fact that she was basically
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being a whore and going over to some guy's house.
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It's not her husband and basically performing these sexual acts with them.
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And then she regretted it later.
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And then all of a sudden it's like, okay, well, this is her hashtag me to moment.
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No, it's not.
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She had a consensual, she did consensual sexual acts with somebody that she had no relationship
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with other than that.
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She went out to dinner with him once, regretted it later.
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Instead of just feeling the personal shame of that moment, she decided to call it sexual
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assault.
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And I think the Me Too movement has aided in that.
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Another thing that I think that has happened is the believe women mantra or believe all
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women mantra.
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And now I understand where this is coming from.
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I understand that some women are not believed.
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I'm sure that has happened.
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Like I'm sure that has happened an unbelievable amount of times.
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But the thing about the saying, just believe women is like, okay, as opposed to what?
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Because I'm in the camp of I would like to believe individual people.
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Because if you say that, you know, believe women, you're inherently demonizing all men,
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right?
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Because I think things should be looked at it on a case by case basis.
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Because I mean, you just have to ask yourself, can women not lie?
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For people that have been, you know, posting this on Twitter and on Instagram and things
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like that, believe all women, believe women, why can't we believe certain women?
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Why can't we believe certain men?
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Because some people's stories are believable because they're true.
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Some people aren't believable because they are not true.
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And so this believe women, believe all women nonsense has come out of the Me Too movement
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as well.
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I mean, just think about it.
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If we just believe all women, why in the world do we put men under oath?
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Why do we even do investigations?
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Why don't we just ask the woman, what happened if she's completely infallible and not going
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to lie?
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And we just go with whatever she says and then let the justice system go from there.
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Right?
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It's just ridiculous.
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Another problem that we see, which is kind of related to this last one, is it in it ends
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discussion before it even begins because we see this happen where you'll have a woman
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that will allege some sort of a sexual assault against a guy.
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And then people start asking questions, even if they're just trying to understand they're
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not trying to attack the woman's integrity or something like that.
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They're not trying to impugn motive on her in any way.
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They're just maybe they don't understand.
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Maybe the there's parts of the story that just don't make sense and they're trying to
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understand.
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And the moment you ask a question, it's like, how dare you?
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How dare you ask a question of this woman?
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Do you hate women?
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We have to believe all women.
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And it's like, if we can't have a discussion, then what are we talking about?
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Because obviously if we just are supposed to believe women and that's the new standard,
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and again, let's just report whatever the women say to the police or the proper authorities
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and let them handle it.
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So I don't really like that it's ending discussion before it begins.
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And I guess the last thing that I'm feeling that's coming up with this is when awareness
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just becomes a witch hunt, because there's a lot of things in our life that don't really
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go anywhere.
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And people are like, what's the whole point of this hashtag or what's the whole point
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of this video or whatever?
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Oh, it's just we want to bring awareness to this thing.
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Because there are some things that's like, okay, we just need to bring awareness to it.
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We need to put it in the public light, but then something has to be done without awareness,
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right?
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But with this whole Me Too movement is the awareness culture has been turned into a witch
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hunt culture, you know, fact checking be damned.
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And we don't need a standard of proof that anyone can agree on.
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But that's the question that it begs is, what is the standard of proof?
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Like what standard of proof are we going to be using?
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Because I think we can all agree on one that if something is provable, we should look for
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ways to prove it and then allow justice to happen in those situations.
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But the big reason where I think that this is going afoul is I feel like the Me Too movement
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has been weaponized by people on the political left.
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And so, so here's the thing guys, I know I say this all time, I don't try to get too
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political on here because I don't want to [inaudible] off one side or the other.
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But this, this is a movement that is only being weaponized by one side of the issue.
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So just follow me here, even if you don't align with the political left or political
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right, whatever, I don't really care where you hit on this.
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Just just follow me here a little bit.
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Because I feel like the Me Too movement has has really run aground.
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I really feel like that's happened and it's happened because of the accusations against
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Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
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And the thing is, is this is I think the worst possible example of how the Me Too movement
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should should not have gone.
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It should not have gone this way.
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So basically, if you've been living under a rock for the last two or three weeks, allow
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me to bring you up to speed.
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But there are accusations currently against Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
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He is a judge on the DCE Court of Appeals.
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And he is Trump's second individual that he is nominated for the Supreme Court.
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He got Neil Gorsuch in last year.
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And now he's going to be, he basically put up Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
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So this is Trump's second Supreme Court nominee.
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This guy has an impeccable track record.
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It's about in every shape of the word that he has been impeccable in his career, okay?
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That doesn't mean he's not fallible.
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It means that he's got a pretty spotless and blameless career up to this point.
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It was so bad watching the senators during some of his confirmation hearings just trying
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to drum up anything.
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Like I think Senator Kamala Harris out of California was asking a question about if
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he had ever met somebody from an organization that Trump had used to use as part of his
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law team, like trying to basically draw a link between him and the Trump Russia conspiracy
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and things like that.
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It was like, what are we grasping at here?
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It was just like a field worth of scarecroshes, one scarecrow after another going up in smoke.
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And so it was just a really interesting thing.
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I mean, they were talking about how he went into debt to buy Washington Nationals tickets,
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which what he did was, is he put the tickets on a credit card, sold it to a bunch of friends.
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You know, basically he was the one taking care of the tickets and he paid the money
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right back.
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Right?
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It was just kind of, it's just really, really weird.
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But essentially, Judge Brett Kavanaugh was accused of sexual assault by Christine Blasey
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Ford, who is currently a professor at Palo Alto University.
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And she claims, Dr. Ford, that he sexually assaulted her 36 years ago.
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So this is basically the claim.
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It was that Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh, when I think Kavanaugh was 17, and she claims
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when she was 15, that they were at a house party, that Brett Kavanaugh was inebriated,
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that he lured her into a back room where there were other people present in that room, that
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they turned the music up so that nobody could hear her, and that he forced her onto the
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bed, put his hand over her mouth, and basically tried to feel her up, put his hand on her mouth
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so that she couldn't scream or so that nobody could hear the screams.
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And that, basically, he was trying to feel her up and trying to rape her.
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And then the claim was, is that in the middle of this, literally right in the middle of
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this, apparently, he decided he didn't want to do it anymore, or that he passed out, or
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something like that.
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And so that's essentially the allegation, again, from 36 years ago, okay?
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So one thing I want to say right up front, because I think people are assuming what
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I'm going to say next, this allegation could be true.
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It absolutely could have happened.
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And that's the thing, is if you're sitting there like, "Oh, no, it couldn't have, yeah,
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absolutely it did."
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You don't know, like, you just don't know.
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And to be frank, no one freaking knows, like really no one knows.
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But here's the things that we do know, is we do know that there are massive, massive
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problems with her story.
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So some of them, they're not that small, but they're just easy to go over.
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She doesn't seem to remember the specific date of the alleged assault, right?
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This assault that, you know, has defined her life, she doesn't remember the date.
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She doesn't remember the exact location of the alleged assault.
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So she puts it in an area of town, not a specific house.
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She doesn't remember how she got to this house, or how she left afterwards.
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She has currently no witnesses that are corroborating her story.
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As of the recording of this podcast, which is the Sunday before its release, there have
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been, I think she put for three witnesses that she said were there that night, that could
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corroborate her story.
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All three have come out and said they don't remember anything about a house party that
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she's suggesting that they were at.
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They don't remember anything about that.
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She also never reported the incident, which here's the thing, I'm not going to fault her
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for that.
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A lot of people are trying to destroy this woman for not reporting it.
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I mean, guys, I mean, this is about as old as time.
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People that suffer sexual assault internalize some of the blame.
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This happens all the time.
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We have people that go to the grave with the realities of what have happened to them sexually
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when they've been sexually abused or assaulted.
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So this is somewhat understandable.
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But essentially, according to her, that this came out in a couple's counseling session
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in 2012, and that, you know, it came out that the Judge Brett Kavanaugh, which I believe
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at the time he was just a DC Circuit Court of Appeals judge, it came out during that session.
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But the only massive problem with that is Blaise Ford's, you know, public comments about
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this alleged incident do not match the notes that were taken by the therapist back in 2012.
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That's an important note.
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So you bring all of this together, all of this together.
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And the story's timing just seems incredibly odd, doesn't it?
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Just seems really, really odd as if there was never an opportunity before this to bring
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up these incredibly terrible allegations about an incredibly public figure.
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And to make matters worse, Senator Dianne Feinstein out of California, Democrat from
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California, surprise, surprise, she essentially released the accusations.
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She released it without a whole lot of detail, but she's just like, ah, there's some things
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coming up and I'm going to tell you later kind of a thing.
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But the thing that's interesting, which again goes back to why this is all incredibly odd,
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she never asked Judge Kavanaugh about these allegations in writing, which she had all
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the opportunities in the world to do that.
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During the closed and open hearings for the nomination for the Supreme Court, she never
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asked about it, which she apparently knew of the allegations before this time, but she
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didn't feel it necessary to bring it up during that time.
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And she also didn't tell her fellow senators about the allegations.
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So none of them could ask about it, right?
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It's just really, really strange.
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Like if this was as serious as what they're claiming that it is, is what they're alleging,
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why didn't they go to the authorities immediately?
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You know, why did this woman write a letter to Dianne Feinstein and to the Washington Post?
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Why didn't why didn't she go to the local authorities?
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You know, it's just there's a lot of things that we can't assume to know because we're
22:41
not in this woman's head, but it's just it's weird at the very least.
22:45
But then the story only gets weirder and weirder guys like what her and her lawyer are saying
22:50
and their actions right now are absolutely flabbergasting.
22:53
They're crazy.
22:55
So so originally she was just saying things like, Hey, or the lawyer through her lawyer
23:01
that she just wanted her story to be heard.
23:03
Like she wanted them to be heard and the Republicans immediately were like, Okay, can you come
23:08
by next week?
23:09
I mean, we'll do a closed session.
23:11
We'll do an open session like we'll do whatever you want.
23:13
We'd love to hear from you as well because if these allegations are credible, then I mean,
23:18
this guy's done.
23:19
And we don't want to vote for a guy that's been credibly accused of these things, right?
23:23
But then it became, Oh, well, you can't bully her into testifying.
23:27
It's like, what are you talking about?
23:29
She said she wanted to talk to us and we said, Okay, how about this date?
23:33
And now we're bullying her.
23:35
And here's the thing is, and guys, by the time this podcast comes out, I mean, I'm recording
23:39
this two or three days in advance and so it's not really going to be coming out in a way
23:44
that, you know, this story is going to continue to change.
23:46
It's changed by the day.
23:48
So this will be a little bit dated, but at the time of the recording of this podcast,
23:51
the lawyers for this lady said that they basically, they didn't want Judge Kavanaugh
23:55
to be present, which is highly ridiculous.
24:00
I mean, in every single court in pretty much the entire planet earth, you're there with
24:04
your accuser, like you, you are defending yourself with your accuser present.
24:09
So that would seem really crazy that Judge Kavanaugh couldn't be there.
24:12
They're demanding that no questions come from outside counsel.
24:15
So they don't they don't want Judge Kavanaugh's lawyers to be asking any questions of their
24:20
client.
24:21
So essentially what it looks like is they just want to make sure that it's the old white
24:25
Republican cisgender cisgendered men going after the poor sexual assault victim, right?
24:31
It looks like they want the optics of that.
24:33
And here's the other thing that is incredibly crazy.
24:36
They want Judge Kavanaugh to testify first.
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If that didn't strike you as odd, I want you to really think about it.
24:44
How many court cases have you seen even depicted on television where the defendant goes first?
24:50
Just think about logically guys.
24:51
How do you defend yourself against an allegation that you're not sure even what it is?
24:57
I mean, we have a general idea of what the allegation is.
24:59
I've obviously talked about it, but you have to know what the prosecution is alleging
25:03
before you can defend yourself.
25:05
So that's very, very odd.
25:07
And then most of the Democrats are basically saying right now that they want an FBI investigation
25:11
before we can go forward.
25:12
We can't possibly vote on Judge Kavanaugh until there's an FBI investigation, which is also
25:17
really odd because what she's alleging happened, which if happened, in my opinion, should keep
25:24
him off the Supreme Court.
25:26
There are some people are like, Oh, he was just 17.
25:28
What if he groped a girl?
25:29
No, I don't I don't agree with that.
25:32
If he got drunk and groped a girl when he was 17, I'm sorry, dude, there's only there's
25:35
only a handful of people in the Supreme Court and that you just can't be one.
25:38
That's my opinion.
25:39
But they're asking for an FBI investigation of something that's not a felony.
25:43
That's not a federal crime.
25:45
Like this is a misdemeanor, what she's describing, a misdemeanor that happened in an exact locality,
25:51
an exact human municipality, 36, almost 37 years ago.
25:56
Like what?
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What does she think the FBI is?
25:59
Like they're not the time police, they can't go back in time and investigate it.
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I mean, just talking strictly in terms of statute of limitations, we're so unbelievably
26:08
beyond all that.
26:09
What exactly would they find?
26:11
Right?
26:12
But but here's here's the whole thing, guys.
26:14
And and I know at this point, you're thinking, Oh, there's just a Republican defendant, his
26:18
guy.
26:19
Dude, at the end of the day, I didn't want Kavanaugh to be nominated to begin with.
26:21
I wanted somebody else.
26:23
Like, I'm certainly okay with him because of his track record, but I was hoping for a
26:27
couple of other people over him.
26:28
So this isn't like I'm just defending my boy.
26:30
And just to remind you, I did not vote for Donald Trump.
26:32
So I'm not just like an always Trump or I'm not a maga, maga guy that I just want everything
26:36
that Trump wants to happen to happen.
26:38
But the whole point here, if you're being intellectually honest, is that Democrats want
26:41
to delay the vote until after the midterm elections.
26:46
The Democrats have an outside chance of taking the Senate and they have a decent chance of
26:50
taking over the house.
26:52
So if they can take over the Senate, then they don't they don't basically have to vote
26:58
on Brett Brett Kavanaugh, they can essentially do what the Republicans did with Merrick Garland.
27:02
Ah, we're not going to vote on that guy.
27:04
And basically anybody that Trump puts up, even if he puts up, you know, reincarnated
27:08
Jesus Christ or something like that, the Democrats will just strike him down.
27:12
Okay.
27:13
That's the entire point.
27:15
So the thing that I think is really hard for us to discuss here is that the people that
27:20
are doing this, again, these alleged assaults that could have happened.
27:24
But most of the evidence points in the opposite direction.
27:27
These people are willing to destroy a man, even if the allegations aren't true.
27:31
Diane Feinstein has come out and basically said she doesn't know if the allegations
27:34
are true or not, but she's on the bottom fourth, right?
27:39
I mean, and if if there is an investigation and nothing nothing comes from it, they've
27:43
already had Democrats go on record saying that even if he is confirmed on the Supreme
27:47
Court, they are going to try to get him taken off after the fact, after the midterms, right?
27:52
They're willing to destroy this man, even if the allegations aren't true.
27:55
And the thing that is just crazy to me is how this could even be happening.
28:00
Like how could we be living at a time where this standard seems okay, right?
28:06
And at this point, I want to kind of transition because I feel like I'm going a little bit
28:09
too far down the rabbit hole because again, I want to bring this all back to how should
28:13
we as Christian men view the Me Too movement, right?
28:16
Like, how should we view what's happening right now?
28:19
And so there were kind of four things that kept popping around in my head.
28:21
So I want to kind of talk about them all individually here.
28:24
The first thing is that we should love it.
28:27
We should absolutely love the Me Too movement.
28:31
Like we should want young ladies and older ladies and young and old boys.
28:36
And we should want all these people that have suffered sexual abuse and sexual assault to
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come forward and tell people what have happened.
28:44
Like we want that.
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We should want that all the time.
28:49
And if it happens to cut against someone that we like or an entity that we like or an establishment
28:54
that we like, so be it.
28:57
Let's let the darkness get into the light.
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Okay.
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Let's not let it fester and continue ruining people's lives.
29:03
We should love it as Christian men.
29:05
And the second thing is we should stand up for justice.
29:09
We should stand up for justice.
29:10
But guys, it's for the accused and the accuser.
29:16
We should want it both ways because this is what we're happening right now.
29:21
Because again, as of right now as a recording of this podcast, there is no substantial evidence
29:26
against a guy like Brett Kavanaugh that this ever happened.
29:29
This is a woman saying that something happened 36 years ago.
29:32
She can't give us any details or any corroborating proof or anything that even looks like a detail
29:37
that could lead to corroborating truth, and we're just supposed to believe her.
29:43
Like we're supposed to allow a man's entire life to be ruined because of what she said.
29:47
This is this is so much farther than he said she said.
29:51
It's so much far beyond that.
29:52
Because here's the thing guys is if we believe that this is something that actually happened,
29:56
not only can he not be on the Supreme Court, this guy can't be on the DC Circuit Court of
30:00
Appeals either.
30:01
It would like, right?
30:03
I mean, we can't have a guy like that.
30:05
It's incredibly accused of a heinous assault like which all of these assaults are heinous
30:10
in different ways.
30:12
But again, we shouldn't want justice here.
30:16
I mean, Jesus came full of grace and truth, right?
30:18
You know, there's there's a lot of grace being talked about now.
30:21
Let's give her grace and let's give her room.
30:23
But at some point, we need to get to the truth.
30:25
There has to be some truth out there.
30:28
And ultimately, we can't know.
30:31
But again, just like any court or any justice proceeding, there has to be some proof of
30:36
something that happened, right?
30:40
I mean, we have to stand up for justice as Christian men that in this movement, we have
30:44
to make sure that it is found out one way or the other.
30:47
We need to know what happened.
30:49
And the third thing that I think that Christian men had in terms of how we should view this
30:53
movement is that we should never want it to be weaponized, right?
30:57
So it's easy right now, right?
30:58
Because I'm someone who aligns more on the conservative side of the political spectrum.
31:01
When I see the left side of the aisle using this as a weapon to point out and be like,
31:06
Oh, bad.
31:07
But what if the she was on the other foot guys, you have to ask that.
31:10
What if we had the power and we were wielding it in this direction to only go after people
31:16
that are on the left side of the political aisle?
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We should never have wanted that to happen.
31:22
And here's the thing.
31:23
This is more evidence that we know that this has been weaponized because how many people
31:27
that are on the political left have suffered because of the Me Too movement.
31:31
I'm pretty sure Bill Clinton gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to go and talk to
31:34
people.
31:35
And he's got a lot of very credible women that have come forward to basically say that he
31:40
raped them.
31:41
Right?
31:42
I mean, we should never have wanted this to be weaponized in any way, shape or form.
31:47
And the last thing that we should think about in terms of the Me Too movement as Christian
31:50
men is that we must be vigilant.
31:53
And guys, I'm going back to that podcast on the Catholic church.
31:58
We have to be vigilant.
31:59
There are things that happen right under our noses to people that we love to people that
32:04
might feel like they don't have a voice even in light of something like the hashtag Me
32:08
Too movement.
32:09
They don't feel like they can come forward.
32:11
They don't feel like they can talk to you.
32:12
So part of what you're doing is you're allowing for someone to have the latitude in your life
32:17
or the relationship with you that they could come to you and talk to you about that.
32:21
You're creating that environment, but at the same time, guys, some of us need to be on
32:24
the hunt because if what's happened in the Catholic church is true and what the other
32:31
stats that prove that these things are true, then these things are happening on ball teams
32:36
that are kids are on.
32:37
These things are happening at camps, church camps or secular camps.
32:40
Doesn't matter.
32:41
This is happening at school.
32:42
This is happening in your neighborhood.
32:44
This is happening all over the place.
32:47
And this isn't just to freak you guys out.
32:48
This is just apparently a thing that goes on.
32:51
There's a lot of predators out there, male and female, people that want to take advantage
32:56
of people younger than them or weaker than them sexually, right?
33:00
It's not just kids, but it does happen to kids a lot who are the most helpless, but there
33:05
are women in your workplace.
33:07
There are, you know, guys in certain areas that they just need help, like they don't
33:12
know where to go.
33:13
They don't know how to defend themselves.
33:14
They don't think they can.
33:16
And guys, if we're going to be Christian men, if we're going to be undaunted lifers,
33:19
if we're going to be the types of guys that stand up for justice, we have to be willing
33:22
to actually stand up.
33:25
I mean, I see this all the time.
33:26
I see these guys like, Oh, man, if somebody had done that to my daughter, I'd blah, blah,
33:30
blah, blah, blah.
33:31
Can you think about some of the things that broke down before the thing would have happened?
33:36
These things don't just fall out of the sky.
33:38
They don't just hit you in the head one day.
33:40
I mean, and there's certain things that you can't stop.
33:42
Like I'm not basically blaming you for the evil that someone else does, but there are
33:46
things that happen that can be prevented that some guys like, Oh, you know, that guy's kind
33:51
of looking at some of the kids in the youth group.
33:54
And I just, you know, it's kind of weird.
33:55
It's catching me off, off guard a little bit, but I's probably just, you know, he's probably
33:59
looking at somebody else.
34:00
All right.
34:01
I don't know.
34:02
Maybe that was his granddaughter in there.
34:03
I don't, I don't really know.
34:04
And we don't think about it.
34:06
And we certainly don't ask about it.
34:08
And I was even listening to a podcast yesterday, it was from apology radio.
34:12
And he was talking about this time in church where there was this guy that would always
34:17
come, he was like a friend of the family, and he would always bring his buddies, daughters
34:22
to church.
34:23
And you know, you're just thinking, Oh, this is what a great guy like the dad can't come
34:25
to church.
34:26
So he's taking the daughters to church with them.
34:27
That's all great.
34:28
And these kids are like, you know, like 12 and 13 years old, but then the daughter of
34:32
the pastor who apparently never gets up during the service, he said this was like a God or
34:36
a damn thing almost had to get up like had to go to the bathroom.
34:40
Like it couldn't wait until after daddy got done preaching.
34:42
She had to go to the bathroom.
34:43
And as she's walking to the back, she goes to the bathroom in the back and she sees this
34:46
man basically making out with this 13 year old girl.
34:51
And I guess that the guy didn't see her or whatever and didn't didn't notice that she
34:54
had noticed.
34:55
And so after the service, she goes up to her dad and says, Hey daddy, you know, and basically
34:59
reports what he saw.
35:00
And then at that exact moment, this pastor and another pastor, they immediately went
35:05
up to the guy and confronted him.
35:08
And within 24 hours, the guy was in handcuffs and he's still in jail today.
35:11
He had carried on a relationship with this girl for years and she was 13 at the time.
35:15
So who knows when it started when she was 10 or 11, right?
35:19
But just think about it.
35:20
And I know there are guys that are like this that would look at their daughter and say,
35:23
honey, are you sure that's what you saw?
35:25
Like honey, are you sure they weren't just talking or are you, are you sure he weren't
35:29
just giving them a hug or something like that?
35:31
And you would be saying those things because you, you're basically being a pre-coward.
35:36
Like you couldn't imagine basically going up to somebody and potentially calling them
35:39
out on something like this.
35:40
And so you just basically are thinking in your head of all the ways that it could not
35:43
be true.
35:44
That's not being vigilant, you guys.
35:46
Like there are things that are going to happen that we can help prevent.
35:50
So if anything has come from the Me Too movement that I think is really positive, there's
35:54
two things.
35:55
Number one, it's causing people to come out that would have otherwise not come out and
35:59
said what had happened to them.
36:01
I think it's an incredibly empowering thing that the Me Too movement has done that.
36:04
The other good thing is that it is reminding us that this thing happens way more often
36:09
than we realize.
36:10
It's happening in our workplaces.
36:12
It's happening everywhere.
36:13
I'm not going to run through another list again, but guys, these things are really, really
36:15
important.
36:16
And so I know this is going to seem like it's really, really political podcast and oh, I'm
36:19
just, you know, protecting this Republican guy or anything like that.
36:22
But guys, if this was someone that Barack Obama suggested and somebody that, you know, could
36:26
be have had associations with people on the right came up and made an allegation like this.
36:32
That was so baseless that that literally had no foundation in anything that still might
36:37
be true.
36:38
They're saying the exact same things.
36:40
I voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney.
36:42
I think Barack Obama is one of the most damaging presidents in the history of the country.
36:46
But guess what?
36:47
He was still my president.
36:48
Guess what?
36:49
If he suggested somebody be on the Supreme Court and they were not credibly accused of
36:53
something like this, I would be like, yeah, that's wrong.
36:55
Guys, you have to be able to call balls and strikes.
36:57
You have to be able to call a spade a spade.
36:59
This is a witch hunt right now.
37:02
And that's why I think that this movement that could have had really, really good things
37:06
be a part of it and really helped a lot of people has run aground and I really find
37:10
that that's unfortunate.
37:11
All right, guys.
37:12
For let you out here, we're going to do a quick resilience boost.
37:14
As you know, by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating manly resilience.
37:18
And specifically, we do that by providing content that forges spiritual, mental and physical
37:23
toughness.
37:24
And today we are going to be focusing on spiritual resilience.
37:26
So guys, one of the things that's important about this, and I kind of talked about a little
37:29
bit, you may have thought it was a little bit harsh, what I called that woman who was,
37:33
you know, doing sex acts with a Z on sorry.
37:35
But at the end of the day is you kind of keep yourself out of these me to moments.
37:41
If you basically are an honorable man.
37:44
And if you keep all of your sexualizing within the confines of your marriage, right?
37:50
And I mean, that's one woman, one woman that you become one flesh with, right?
37:55
So guys, just to let you know, I've had sex with one woman in my entire life and that's
37:58
my wife.
37:59
Okay.
38:00
And so a lot of these things that could happen to people, these, these comments, these sexual
38:05
comments, this flirtation in the workplace, or, you know, basically they started looking
38:09
at porn and then they started looking at crazier porn and then they felt like they need to
38:12
act the porn out and, you know, all these different things that happen.
38:15
If you keep the biblical confines of a marriage in your brain and you act them out, you will
38:23
avoid all of these situations.
38:26
They won't even like occur to you that that it's something that you could do.
38:30
And so the thing that I'm going to suggest you guys do is something that we made about
38:33
a year ago, which is undaunted life and undaunted marriage.
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Okay.
38:36
It's a uversion of ocean and the link is going to be here in the description.
38:39
But if you just go to the uversion Bible app on wherever you access that, go to plants
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and search an undaunted marriage, you'll find it.
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It's a five day.
38:47
I'm actually taking my Sunday school through this right now.
38:49
It's a, it's a five day, uh, basically it's a lesson about how we are to have a marriage
38:55
that's going to be undaunted in this current age.
38:58
Like what are the elements of those types of things?
39:00
And so for you guys, if you feel like you're being pulled in the area where you might, you
39:04
know, trip and fall and land into some of this me too nonsense, I think that this devotional
39:08
is going to be something that's going to be good for you.
39:10
I think it's good for you to share with some other guys that are in your life, some guys
39:13
that are maybe good husbands or bad husbands.
39:15
I think there's stuff in there that you could benefit from.
39:18
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