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041 - Q&A Vol. 6

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041 - Q&A Vol. 6
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In this episode of Undaunted Life, Kyle Thompson tackles a variety of questions, from the nature of masculinity to the challenges of modern church culture. He emphasizes the importance of being a resilient man of faith while addressing pressing societal issues with clarity and conviction.
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0:59 This is I'm Daunted Life from Man's Podcast.
1:13 I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
1:14 Let's get into it.
1:15 All right guys, we haven't done Q&A in a while, so we're going to launch into Q&A volume six.
1:19 But before we get into the first question, it was pointed out to me, my good friend of mine.
1:23 So shout out to Tyler Conradi.
1:25 But back on episode 36, I know where my wife is.
1:28 Where I talked about the former Thunder Coach,
1:31 Monty Williams.
1:32 He pointed out to me very lovingly, very politely,
1:35 that hey, you said you're a big Thunder fan and I know you're a big Thunder fan,
1:38 but do you realize what you call the coach of the Thunder?
1:42 And so I obviously know that the coach of the Oklahoma City Thunder is Billy Donovan.
1:47 But for whatever reason in that podcast, I said Landon Donovan.
1:51 And not just once, I said it twice.
1:53 And so I obviously know that Landon Donovan is a retired U.S.A team USA soccer player,
1:59 and that Billy Donovan is the name of the coach.
2:01 But this is me eating crow.
2:03 This is me falling on my sword.
2:04 This is me doing all those things.
2:05 So I would like to correct the record from podcast 36 so that we can all move on.
2:10 We all good?
2:11 All right guys, let's get into the first question.
2:12 Did God call us to be beta males and alpha males?
2:17 So this was a really interesting question.
2:19 And I got to be honest with you guys.
2:20 When I got this question, initially I was like, oh, this is, this one's going to be easy to answer.
2:25 But then I was chewing on it quite a bit more.
2:28 And I was like, well, there's a whole lot of nuance here, right?
2:31 It's like, okay, well, do we all agree on what we mean by beta males?
2:35 Do we all agree on what we mean by alpha males?
2:38 And so there are people that have different ideas on what those two things mean,
2:41 how they correlate with one or one another.
2:43 And then you start getting into, okay, what would God want us to do in terms of the continuum
2:48 between those two things, but the thing that I think is the most acceptable.
2:52 I think for most individuals, whenever we're looking at beta males versus alpha males
2:57 is a femininity, right?
2:58 So we don't look at an alpha male, whatever we see or view as an alpha male as being someone
3:04 that is shows very many effeminate qualities.
3:07 I think that's a fair assumption because there are some things that people think alpha males are
3:11 that I would necessarily agree with and vice versa.
3:14 Same thing on the beta male side.
3:16 But I think that that's kind of a good central point, kind of how they act in most situations.
3:21 Is it overtly manly or is it less manly?
3:24 And so then when I started thinking about the corollaries in terms of how we go to Scripture
3:28 and what we can glean from that, I kept coming back to 1 Corinthians chapter 6,
3:33 and I was looking at verses 9 and 10.
3:35 And the thing is, is I normally stick in the English standard version ESV.
3:40 But when I went back to the King James version, I think that this was helpful.
3:43 And hopefully I can tease this out here in a second.
3:45 But let me go and read 1 Corinthians 6, 9 and 10 to you in the King James version,
3:49 and then we'll launch him from there.
4:13 Or towards the end of verse 9, and that's nor adulters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate.
4:19 And so some people, I know whenever you're reading through that, if you're reading an IV,
4:23 or if you're reading ESV or new NLT, whatever you're reading, the word effeminate doesn't pop up.
4:28 So normally you see it as men practicing homosexuality,
4:33 or it'll just talk about homosexuality in general.
4:37 But the thing that's really interesting about this part when you go back to the King James version,
4:41 the original King James version, is it brings up the word effeminate.
4:44 Because when you go back to the Greek, and I'm not even going to pretend to be the guy to give you
4:48 a lesson in the Greek right now, but the word that's used here is basically a combination
4:53 of the word man and the word bed.
4:55 And so it's like, you know, basically betting a man or having sex with a man, a man having sex
5:00 with a man. So that's what the word is used here.
5:02 But when they translated it into the King James version, it came out as effeminate, right?
5:07 And so the thing about this, again, I'm going to go back to the original,
5:10 which is effeminate is kind of closer to beta than it is alpha.
5:14 And so basically, if we're going to look at it through that lens, and we're going to try to
5:19 glean what God means from that, I do not think God would want us to be more towards beta
5:25 and less towards alpha, right? And there's unhealthy alpha.
5:30 And I'm sure some of you are thinking that right now.
5:32 And again, like I said, there's a lot of nuance in this.
5:34 And the whole podcast isn't going to be about this question.
5:36 So I'm just trying to get through it in a appropriate manner.
5:39 But when we look at the, the undaunted life definition of manhood, again, it's got a guy that
5:44 cultivates spiritual, mental and physical resilience daily. I consider that to be much closer to alpha
5:51 than beta as well. I mean, I mean, obviously, that's something that I would be looking at.
5:55 So when we're looking at the continuum, I think that God would absolutely
5:58 in our, in our striving to be more masculine and more manly, that would take us more towards
6:04 the alpha side than the beta side. But one thing I do want to point out here
6:08 is something that's been talked about a lot in a lot of different ways. And so I'll try to be
6:12 a little bit unique on it. But everyone, everyone talks about Matthew five five here.
6:16 And so it's blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth.
6:20 And obviously you've heard every pastor on the planet, basically. So meek doesn't mean weak. I'm
6:25 telling you that. But here's the thing is when we hear the word meek, even outside of the context
6:29 of Matthew five five, we do think weak. And in 2018, we think weak, we think gentle,
6:35 we think subservient, quiet, submissive, like those are the things that kind of come up in our brains.
6:42 But this is another very important thing whenever you do go back to the Greek here,
6:47 because there's been some people that have kind of come out and said they know what that word
6:51 supposed to mean. And it's not always the same. But essentially what the Greek word used here,
6:56 whenever we use the term meek, it's humble to authority. It's a willingness to be corrected,
7:04 you know, hesitant to be, to be unnecessarily overpowering to just kind of roll over somebody.
7:10 But the big thing here is that this word meek, it's talking about self control. And overall,
7:16 just the virtue of mastering personal desires and passions. And so that's something that I think
7:22 is really important for us to think about here, because I know a lot of people have asked whenever
7:26 Jordan Peterson was on the Joe Rogan podcast last, he was asking a lot about, you know,
7:30 he basically came up and said that the term meek is, you know, someone having their sword,
7:36 knowing how to use it, believing its sheath, right? And there were people that come out and they're
7:40 like, Oh, Jordan Peterson, he's not theologian. What's he doing? Trying to tell us what the Greek means
7:44 and blah, blah, blah, and go on that. But overall, that's a pretty good way of looking at it.
7:48 That, you know, it's having the control to know that you don't need to overpower a situation. And so,
7:56 I think along with some more spiritual maturity, that guys are not going to want to go towards
8:01 weakness. And even in the times where we would have considered Jesus meek, he was not weak when he
8:06 was going through those situations, he was just very, very controlled. Just think, just think about
8:10 him, you know, be basically being having to drag himself to go gotha, you know, to be crucified
8:16 and finish the crucifixion that the things that he could have done to get himself out of that
8:20 situation, he had the power. Like he could have overpowered that situation completely, right?
8:25 But he, but he chose not to. So he was very meek in those situations, but you cannot say that he was
8:31 subservient, submissive, gentle to the point that that basically he was under the complete control
8:36 of somebody else. So again, I hope that again, that's a very nuanced question. I didn't want to go
8:41 too terribly far into that, but hopefully that's helpful. All right, next question. What are your
8:46 top three albums of all time? Okay, so when I did my top three albums, it's like, all right,
8:51 do you have like any uniqueness in your musical tastes? Because here's the thing is I do have a
8:55 fairly eclectic musical taste like I can go from jazz to red dirt to heavy metal to more singer song
9:02 writers. So I just kind of go all over the place. But when I did my top three albums, they were all
9:05 metal albums. So that's just kind of how it goes. So I guess my number one album of all time,
9:10 that if I can only listen to one album for the rest of my life, it'd be the album where blood
9:14 and frat and where blood and fire bring rest by the band Zayo. So the thing is this guys, a lot of
9:20 you don't even know who this band is, but Zayo is basically a legendary underground metal band. So
9:26 kind of started out in the Christian realms and have gone a little bit more secular, even though
9:31 the singer Dan is a Christian. It's kind of a complicated deal. I'm not really going to get into
9:35 that on this podcast, but it was an album release in 1998. It was the first one with Dan as the singer
9:41 and anyone that's into metal music or, you know, basically your favorite metal band. And I mean,
9:46 like a real metal band, not like, you know, Nickelback or whatever you guys listen to, but
9:49 like an actual metal band. A lot of these guys point to Dan Wayant, the lead singer of Zayo as
9:54 being one of the guys, one of those iconic voices. And so this was the first album where we got to
10:00 hear this iconic metal scream. And so it's just an incredible, incredible album. It was like the
10:04 second Christian metal album that I own behind a reborn by living sacrifice. So incredible album,
10:11 I would have to have that one. The second one may seem a little bit strange, but obviously I got
10:16 into metal as a little kid. And so when I was a little kid, you know, Metallica was a thing. Now,
10:20 when I was in elementary school, just to kind of give you a sense of timing, Metallica reload had
10:24 just came out. And so load and reload were kind of like, you know, people were like, who is this
10:28 band now? They've cut their hair and they're not as heavy as they used to be. So I kind of had to
10:33 go backwards in my Metallica fandom. So I had to find, you know, kill them all and ride the lightning
10:38 and master of puppets and justice for all in the black album kind of after the fact,
10:42 I had to kind of figure those things out. And I followed them even through, you know, some of their
10:46 terrible recent albums, but now that they have the new basis, those albums are pretty good. But
10:51 basically, here's the thing, the album SNM, the one that they did with the San Francisco Symphony
10:57 Orchestra, is one of my top three albums of all time. And people are like, you've got to be
11:01 kidding a live album, you know, one with a, you know, a choir in the background or like whatever
11:05 they were doing, like, but the thing about it is, is it wasn't a choir. It was a very fantastically
11:10 done concert. Like they did so much effort. They put so much effort into this concert. They had so
11:17 many people involved and to have an orchestra sound like they were a part of this metal band.
11:22 Whenever they were playing some of their newer stuff, but also some of their really heavy
11:26 old, you know, faster stuff, it was just such a well put together album, right? And again, you know,
11:32 I don't agree with everything that the guys in Metallica sing about or the things that they do.
11:36 But but at the end of the day, this is an amazing, amazing double album. It was released in 1999.
11:41 So if you're a Metallica fan, you probably know about it. But but even if you're not even really
11:46 into metal, just hearing how it kind of coalesces with a, you know, with this big ensemble orchestra
11:54 was really, really impressive. And obviously, you guys know by now that August Burns read,
11:59 there are huge, huge band in my life. I'm really, really a huge fan of that band. They're probably
12:04 my second favorite band behind Zail. And I would have to have their album Messengers. So that was
12:10 in 2007 is when that was released. And so they've released a ton of records since then. But that
12:15 was kind of like the core record for them. So I had listened to the previous record and really,
12:20 really got into them. But Messengers was kind of that dividing line album, first album with the
12:24 new singer Jake. And so just a really incredible album. It's something that you can listen to over
12:29 and over actually just last year, they released a remix of the album where they basically kind of
12:34 re edited it and, you know, mess with the levels and all those different things. So again,
12:38 the three albums would be Zail where Blood and Fire bring rest, Metallica, S&M and August Burns
12:43 read Messengers. All right, guys, next question. Can we stop school shootings? Okay, so fairly
12:50 serious question. But essentially, no, no, we cannot. The thing is guys is evil will always find a way.
12:58 And I know people right now, especially if you're more on the left side of the political aisle,
13:02 you're gonna be like, of course we can if we just do this or we just do that. And the thing about
13:06 it is guys is for all being intellectually honest. And I'm sure you've heard this argument before
13:10 on most of these school shootings, there weren't laws that if they were on the books at the time
13:15 would have prevented that thing from happening. You know, the thing about criminals is they don't
13:18 really care about the law. So if they want to do something heinous and terrible, it doesn't mean
13:22 we can't make it harder on them. But but no, there's really no way that we can just completely
13:26 eradicate school shootings. And there's a lot of, I guess, macro issues that you need to deal with
13:32 when addressing this. And the first, I guess, would be addressing the mental health issue in the
13:36 United States. And so a lot of these people that end up going on these rampages, especially these
13:42 young men, they have mental health problems. They have definable mental health problems that we
13:47 could look at and look for certain treatment, but that kind of gets into the next macro issue,
13:52 which is address the prescription drug problem in the United States. You know, like a lot of these
13:56 people after the fact when we look into them, these are people that were on a lot of prescription
14:00 medications, some of them for mental health and for ADHD and for all these different things. And
14:04 and I'm not saying that if we medicate those people that that leads to mass killings, I'm certainly
14:08 not making that but there's an issue with prescription drugs and that does aid in some of the things
14:13 that happen here. And then obviously we've talked about this on the podcast as well,
14:17 address the fatherlessness problem in the United States. I mean, a lot of these boys
14:22 that that are doing these things that are doing these these kind of mass shootings in a school,
14:26 a lot of them don't have great home lives. And a lot of them, you know, dad's not there,
14:30 dad's kind of aloof and doesn't really pay attention and all those different things. And again,
14:34 this isn't dad's fault. You know, I'm I'm very much so a personal responsibility individual,
14:40 but you know, those are kind of the macro issues, mental health, prescription drugs,
14:44 fatherlessness, that kind of lead to some of this. But then if we're if we come out of the clouds a
14:49 little bit and come down to the ground level, there's there are certain ways that we can mitigate
14:53 some of the problems of school shootings. And we've talked about them on this podcast before.
14:55 And the first thing is it's very, very unpopular, but allow trained faculty and staff to carry
15:02 on campus. I think it's absolutely insane that you could carry everywhere else in your life.
15:08 You can carry to the grocery store, you can carry to the movies or you can carry, you know,
15:12 over to a party or whatever you want to do. But the moment you get on school property,
15:16 you can't carry anymore. I mean, you look back and there has been some school excuse me school
15:21 shootings in Israel. But then they started allowing the the the people like the faculty and staff to
15:27 carry. And there had been like two school shootings in the last extended period of time. And both of
15:33 those school shootings were stopped by armed teachers. So the thing about it is, no, I would
15:38 never be an advocate saying if you will, if you're a teacher in K through 12 that you have to carry
15:43 a gun, that's that's absurd. That's ridiculous. I would never say that. And you can't even find
15:47 a second amendment absolutist that would even think that that was a good idea. But if you are a
15:52 trained individual and you want to carry, you should be able to carry on these campuses,
15:56 because a lot of these, you know, coaches or or faculty, staff or principals, they're they're
16:01 using their bodies to shield kids. I'd rather them have, you know, have a weapon that they could,
16:05 you know, engage the perpetrator directly, right? So there's, you know, I guess unpopular opinion,
16:12 number one, but I guess the other thing too, is, is more security at schools would be a way to
16:16 mitigate this. I mean, this is duh. I mean, we talk about school resource officers at these
16:19 different places. And even in the community I live in right now, they're talking about, well,
16:23 should we add more school resource officers? Is it going to make the kids feel unsafe? And, you
16:27 know, is it going to really change the environment? And it's just really, are we really having this
16:32 debate? Like, when's the last time you walked into an event where there was security and you felt
16:37 less safe? Just think about it from a basic standpoint. Think about the last time you went to any
16:43 massive sporting event, college football game, NBA game, major league baseball game, whatever the
16:48 thing may be, all those places have security. And a lot of those places, you can see the security.
16:53 Think about airports, you go through a long line to get through security. Do you feel less secure
16:58 once you're in the airport? Are you literally sitting there like, Oh, I'm in this crazy place,
17:03 the airport must be a big target because they've got all this security. These kids won't give a
17:07 crap, man. They're not going to care at all. If they had school resource officers or armed
17:12 police that are that are walking around the exterior of the school, or even walking around the inside,
17:16 it's not going to be a big deal. And then another thing we talked about before on this podcast,
17:20 a lot of the stuff guys I'm kind of rehashing from an old episode, actually episode 10 of this
17:25 podcast is called guns in the reality of evil. So I talked about this more in length on that
17:29 podcast. But another way to mitigate school shootings is school partitioning, like security
17:33 partitioning. Now, the thing that's going to be hard is basically retroactively doing this in
17:38 schools, especially schools that, you know, may have issues, you know, just in general being
17:44 with the upkeep of the schools, it's kind of hard for us to then put in this security
17:48 partitioning, but especially with schools that are just being built now, which there are a lot
17:52 being built having security partitions. Because in a lot of places, we have basically fire
17:57 partitions. So if there's a fire in one part of the building, we can close off that part of the
18:01 building. And then we don't have any issues. It doesn't spread as much as it could. You can do
18:06 the same thing. There are hospitals out there in military bases and things like that, where if
18:10 there is a perpetrator in one area, that area can be locked down. So this person basically doesn't
18:16 have free reign of all the hallways, and all the breezeways and all the stairwells and things like
18:21 that, that you can keep this person in one area. And it also helps whenever a SWAT or police show
18:26 up on the scene, it's going to be easier for them to identify where the perpetrator is. So again,
18:31 guys, it's kind of getting into a touchy subject for a lot of people. But if you would like to know
18:34 more kind of where I land on this issue, I did a really long episode. Like I said, go back and
18:38 listen to episode 10. All right, next question. Do you think Hollywood is pushing the same sex
18:44 stuff a little too much in movies and television? So ultimately, yes. The thing that's really interesting
18:52 about all of this is the GLAD foundation or GLAD that's gay and lesbian alliance against defamation,
18:59 they are pushing for more LGBT representation in Hollywood, like big time. So there's there's a
19:06 very growing percentage of studios and shows and movies that are showing more LGBTQ plus da da da da
19:14 characters and people that are in these shows. But it's really an outsized percentage for their
19:20 representation within the US population. And I guess what I mean by that is, you know,
19:25 there's a lot of different stats out there. But most of the stats are around 3.8 or 4% of Americans
19:30 identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or trans. About 3.8%. But we're seeing all these shows,
19:38 like a quarter of the shows that we're seeing that are coming out, especially in 2018,
19:42 they've got an LGBT character, right? But but here's the thing guys is here's the key is whether
19:48 that's going to keep you from watching a show or a movie or whatever. I guess that's up to you
19:52 because, you know, are you ignoring all the other sinful things in the show so that you can watch
19:56 it for these reasons? And and now you're going to stand up because there's an LGBT character or
20:00 whatever. Like, look, I get it. But overall, Hollywood is just trying to normalize this.
20:05 They're trying to show everybody that these people are they're normal. This is a completely
20:12 normal way of behaving. This is an acceptable way of behaving. And it's kind of a
20:17 outside of culture type of thing. So this isn't just culture, like this is reality.
20:22 That's what they're trying to basically say that as there's even a lot of gay and trans
20:26 characters that are showing up in kids shows. I mean, you you may have heard this because they're
20:30 talking about if they're going to make a frozen to or whatever like all you guys out there with
20:33 kids. I'm sure you've heard about that. But Elsa, who is I guess the queen from frozen,
20:38 I'm pretty sure that's a blonde one. So don't don't yell at me if I got that wrong. I'll correct
20:42 it on a later episode. But there's there's thoughts that she might be a lesbian. And so that's why
20:47 she like doesn't need a man and all these different things. It's because she's actually a lesbian.
20:50 And so again, if you plant these seeds in children's heads when they're so young,
20:55 when their brains aren't fully developed for like another 20 years or something like that,
20:59 obviously you can push the culture in a certain direction and show them that this is normal,
21:03 like this is a normal way of thinking, like just think about what the entertainment looked like,
21:07 you know, ask your parents or your grandparents, like sitcoms back in the day,
21:10 you would never, you know, you would also never see a man and a woman sleeping in the same bed.
21:14 But even when they showed them in the same bed, it wasn't like this, this attitude that sex
21:19 was just kind of this thing that happens, right? You can be with anybody at any time and everybody
21:23 wants it and and all those different things. But now promiscuity sexually is just something that
21:28 you see, you just see it all over the place. But but even it's, it's nefarious in kids shows,
21:32 because you'll see these shows of kids that are in like junior high or something like that.
21:36 And they just go from, from relationship to relationship to relationship. And it seems
21:40 inset enough, because oh my gosh, they're just kids. But whenever you advance it a step or two,
21:44 it's showing that these these kids are just basically moving from relationship to relationship.
21:48 And when they become sexually active, that means they're moving from sexual partner to
21:52 sexual partner to sexual partner. And so, so guys, I'm really not taking it to an extreme there.
21:56 But that's the thing is it's Hollywood is pushing this, you know, Hollywood certainly has an agenda.
22:02 But at the end of the day, Hollywood, there's a reason why the movies that don't push the LGBT
22:10 type of parameters and don't push those things down or throat, those are the movies that tend
22:14 to be more popular, right? Because when you're looking to basically appeal to your base,
22:18 that's a very niche thing. But when you're looking to appeal to everybody, you're not really going
22:22 to do those things. And then you open yourselves up to boycotts and things like that, blah, blah.
22:26 But but yes, it's a little bit ridiculous. Even if we just look at it in terms of percentages,
22:30 it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But I certainly don't think it's going to slow down at any point.
22:34 All right, next question. What is the best investment you made this year?
22:39 Okay, that's a that's an interesting question. And I asked a guy about it. He said he bought a ninja
22:43 this year, like I guess that's a little blender or something like that. So he's like, you got to
22:46 make sure you go and get one. So to my buddy, that sent me this question. All right, noted,
22:51 I will try to get myself a ninja at some point this year. But you know, this is going to be a
22:54 little bit ridiculous. But I have a I have a long box truck. So it's got a six and a half foot bed.
22:59 And I needed to get a cover for it. And my wife and I were going on a camping trip up in Estes Park,
23:03 Colorado this summer. And we were trying to think, you know, should we get a camper shell? You know,
23:07 should we get, you know, should we get a tent and just have like a bed cover like what should we do?
23:12 And so there's even those tents that go on the backs of trucks. I don't know if you guys have
23:16 seen those, but the reviews even on some of the good ones weren't that great. They kind of tear
23:19 up and don't really last very long. And so what we ended up doing is I bought a backflip G2
23:25 to no cover. So that's basically a bed cover. It's one that kind of folds up and folds up
23:30 against the back of the window, the back of the the back window of the truck of the cab.
23:34 And this thing is awesome. Like it is absolutely awesome. I spent so much time looking at bed covers
23:41 because there's a billion different things. You can get ones that roll up, some that are fabric,
23:44 some that are metal, some that, you know, match the rest of the truck and they've got hydraulics
23:49 or they come up at an angle or all these different things. And they vary in their expense. And the
23:53 thing is is I'm not one of those guys that likes to buy something, try it out and then go buy
23:56 something else and just switch them out here or there. I want to install it on the truck and
24:00 then never touch it again. Like I wanted to stay on there. I want it to last and all those things.
24:04 But essentially after one camping trip with this, it is just awesome because my tailgate locks
24:10 and once the thing flips down, everything's locked up and completely secure. You know,
24:15 it's airtight. So there's not really much water that gets in and it's been in torrential downpour
24:19 rain and not a whole lot of water gets in the bed. But in terms of an investment,
24:24 the truck that I just got, you know, Silverado, I'm going to have that for a very, very long time.
24:28 And I'm assuming that this cover will be a part of that for a long time. I've seen it on big trucks,
24:33 on little trucks like Chevy Colorado's. And so it's in guys, I am not sponsored by Backflip.
24:39 I don't get anything from them. But you know, just to answer this question, that is legitimately
24:42 one of the best things that I've bought recently. Okay, next question. Is speaking in tongues a hoax?
24:48 Okay. So I guess this guy's wanting me to get on the charismatic here. So I'll see if I can
24:54 not get myself in trouble. So the thing is, is speaking in tongues is all over scripture.
25:02 Like there are scriptures all over the place. And so I looked up just a few,
25:07 just to kind of make sure, I mean, I'm sure you've seen it, but maybe you forgot where it was,
25:10 because we see it in acts. And we also see it in first Corinthians a lot. But acts 24 says this,
25:15 all of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the spirit
25:19 enabled them. So that's early on in acts and then later in acts, we see in acts 19, six,
25:24 when Paul places hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
25:29 But then also when you go to first Corinthians, basically the biggest chunks of chapters 12,
25:34 13 and 14 deal with speaking in tongues. And so this is what I'll say. I don't come from a charismatic
25:39 background. I've talked about this a lot. And I know a lot of you guys out there share this.
25:43 I didn't grow up in church. So the first church I went to was a kind of a small town church of
25:48 Christ. So if any of you guys know what that's like, it's a very conservative almost, I don't know,
25:54 cult like isn't really the best way of saying it. But that's what my wife says. And she grew up in
25:58 that church. But basically it's a this is the only church for God type of thing. And this is how
26:03 we're going to sing and this how we're going to do things. And so that was kind of my early church.
26:06 And then I started to go to a Baptist church on my own. And now my wife and I go to a Bible church,
26:10 but we used to go to this big non denominational church for forever. So the thing about it is,
26:14 is what I'm saying is I've never been to one of those churches like a Cares Magga church,
26:18 or I think Episcopalians do the speaking in tongues and things like that. So I've never really seen
26:23 it. So I can't really speak to it as kind of a firsthand experience. But this is what I can
26:30 guarantee you is that people certainly fake it. Right, I think it was on the I what was it in the
26:36 board the movie, Borat or something like that. I think the main character went to this church and
26:40 they were kind of speaking in tongues. And the thing about it, the thing about it is is the whole
26:45 speaking and tongues thing does hurt the church. Even assuming that no one's faking it, that it's
26:51 never a hoax. It hurts the church just because people outside the church will never understand
26:55 this. It's just ridiculous. It just seems like there's people running up and down the aisle is
27:00 going, like they're just like freaking out and flailing and doing all these crazy things. So
27:05 it's hard for people to understand even if it's real. And so again, I don't know that I really
27:11 have a great conclusion to this question. But I can again, it was is speaking in tongues of
27:17 hoax. No, it is not a hoax. It can happen. It is certainly possible. We've seen it in scripture.
27:23 I've heard about a lot of people that have, you know, their own prayer language and things like
27:26 that. So I would never be the guy to come out and say that everyone's doing it. Everyone that is
27:31 doing it is faking people or tricking people or something like that. But at the end of the day,
27:35 it's it's kind of hard to really know for sure. And I don't know, it's weird to me and it's kind of
27:41 one of those things. But you know, there are a lot of things that are weird to other people. So,
27:44 you know, spiritual warfare is weird to some people and all these different things. So,
27:48 man, I think I'm just like rambling on this question now. So I'm just going to go ahead and cut it off
27:52 there. No, it's not a hoax. It can happen. People fake it. I don't really know when. So we'll move
27:58 on from there. All right, guys, next question. Connor or Habib. All right. So this is obviously
28:04 a question that is in reference to the huge fight coming up on October 6. So if you're listening to
28:08 this on time, this will be released obviously before that fight. But this is the main event for
28:12 UFC 229. And guys, this is likely the biggest fight in UFC history. This is Connor McGregor's
28:19 comeback fight versus Habib Nergamen. No, I'm going to mess up. Of course, I messed up his last name.
28:24 Nur Magomedov. Nur Magomedov. There you go. There you go, people. There's my Russian Nur Magomedov.
28:29 So Connor versus Habib, Habib is an undefeated fighter. He's 26 and oh, he's had some impressive
28:36 victories as of late. But then it's Connor McGregor. He's the biggest fighter in the history of the
28:40 UFC. This is his first fight in the UFC since November of 2016. Yes, it has been that long.
28:47 That's whenever he beat Eddie Alvarez to get his second belt. So he absolutely murdered Eddie
28:52 Alvarez at UFC 205 just embarrassed him in every way possible and won the 155 pound belt. And that
28:59 was in addition to the belt. He already had the 145 pound belt. But then obviously in 2017 in the
29:04 summer, he fights Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match hasn't been back in the UFC since. So
29:09 just the fact that this is Connor's comeback fight and makes this a huge fight.
29:12 But since it's against Habib, that's, that's just a massive, massive fight. And for a lot of you guys,
29:18 I even had my dad ask me their days like, Hey, is Connor going to be fighting soon? Not really,
29:22 a lot of people really know about it because Connor's not really doing it in a lot of media.
29:25 But there is a ton of bad blood between Connor and Habib, a ton. And so to kind of give you guys a
29:31 little bit of the backstory, there's a guy that's on Connor's team. He's a longtime teammate of
29:35 Connor McGregor. His name's Artem Loboff. So our artem is an Irish or sorry, he's a Russian guy
29:41 who has basically kind of been accepted into the Irish community because of all the training that
29:45 he's done in Ireland and being a part of Connor's team. But Artem was basically walking through the
29:51 lobby of a hotel when Habib and all of his team kind of they were kind of confronting him a little
29:58 bit. And I guess there was a little bit of beef between Artem and Habib. They call it. Oh, it's
30:03 just a Russia thing, like whatever that means. But the problem was is that Artem was by himself.
30:08 He didn't have any teammates. He didn't have any coaches with them. It was just him. And then it
30:12 was Habib and his entire team. And so Habib kind of got in his face. And you know, Artem basically
30:17 stood his ground. But it was very, very tense. It was it was very, very awkward to say the least.
30:23 But apparently what ended up happening is when Connor found out about this, he lost his mind.
30:30 Like he lost his mind at the thought that one of his teammates was basically, you know,
30:34 intimidated by a bunch of other people, especially the ringleader being a guy that's in his division
30:39 that he may eventually fight. And so most of you know what ended up happening. After the UFC two
30:45 third two 23 media day, this was back in April, they're at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.
30:50 Whenever all the fighters were taken from the media onto the buses, you saw Connor come in with
30:57 like two dozen guys basically thugs for hire that hit that he had brought in. And they were like
31:02 attacking the buses. They were they were throwing bike racks and doing all these different things.
31:06 And I guess the cut to grab the whole thing was Connor took a dolly and threw it through the window
31:10 of one of these buses, the bus that that Habib was on. And so Connor and his thugs, they ran off,
31:17 they eventually got arrested. And you know, Connor and another guy were charged and Connor was eventually
31:23 basically it was reduced down to a misdemeanor. He has to do like pay a fine and pay for the bus and
31:28 you know, do some community service and stuff like that. But just a ton of bad blood. And the
31:33 thing that became readily apparent is in the in the wake of all this Dana White who runs the UFC,
31:38 you know, talked about how embarrassing it was and how terrible it was. But we all knew that this
31:43 was gold when it came to promoting a fight. Because the thing is, is there already going to be fist
31:48 fighting each other? But when you have bad blood, or you know, this guy said something about your
31:53 mama and this guy, you know, did something to your old teammate and you're going to get back
31:57 at him, it just increases the stakes a little bit. And that's what we have here. So it wasn't the
32:02 least bit surprising to me that as soon as Connor was exonerated or brought down to a misdemeanor,
32:07 that not not that much farther after that, they were going to announce a fight between him and Habib.
32:12 Because here's the thing is Connor never lost the 155 pound belt. So but the UFC at one point
32:19 just had to move on because Connor hadn't fought in forever. You can't just leave the belt hanging
32:23 out there for, you know, months and months and months at a time, even over a year. And so they
32:27 stripped Connor the belt and Habib fought for the belt and won. But we knew this fight was coming.
32:33 We knew it was going to happen. So it's happening here in October. So let's kind of break down the
32:37 fight before I get my prediction because even standing here, I don't know exactly what my
32:40 prediction is going to be. So let's see where it goes. The thing about this fight, guys,
32:44 this fight can really only go one of two ways. It's either going to be an early
32:50 knockout for Connor, like, you know, first or second round, or it's going to be a five round
32:55 mauling for Habib. I mean, that's really it. Those are the only two ways this fight can go.
33:00 Every other way this fight can break down would be a surprise if Connor won by submission
33:05 or if Habib won by knockout, those would all be incredibly, incredibly difficult things to fathom.
33:10 But the reality is, is that Connor has never ever faced a grappler, grappler like Habib.
33:16 So he's fought some guys that had good wrestling. So Eddie Alvarez is a good wrestler, but he didn't
33:21 really use it against Connor. He tried to shoot a couple of times, but they were kind of like halfway
33:25 shots. So they were stuffed easily. He was taken down at will by Chad Mendez. Chad Mendez just took
33:31 him down and took him down. And this was in Chad Mendez came in. If y'all remember, this is when
33:35 Connor won the interim belt before he knocked out Jose Aldo. Chad Mendez took took him down,
33:40 even though he he didn't have the same gas tank because he hadn't been training for as long.
33:44 So it's the thing is is Connor is not a very great grappler. And Habib is far and away better
33:51 than all the other grapplers that Connor has fought. But at the same time, Habib has never
33:58 faced a striker like Connor McGregor, like not even close. And again, Connor basically sticks
34:04 to boxing. He does a little bit of kickboxing, a little bit of Muay Thai, but he basically sticks
34:08 to boxing. And here's the thing with Habib, Habib gets hit a lot. Like he gets hit a lot, a lot,
34:14 right? But the other thing is, is people look at Habib's last several fights and they're like,
34:18 oh, he's going to kill Connor because of these fights and what we saw in these fights. But the
34:21 thing about it is, is all those fights went the same way. I mean, it was just takedown,
34:26 ground and pound mauling by Habib. But let's look at these last three fighters he fought.
34:30 The last one he fought was Ally Aquina. And he fought Ally Aquina on one day's notice.
34:37 Because if you'll remember, Tony Ferguson got hurt. So they tried to find a last minute replacement.
34:41 They got Max Holloway in there, but they were concerned about Max Holloway of making the weight.
34:45 Lo and behold, he couldn't make the weight. And then Ally Aquina gets in there on one day's notice.
34:49 So yeah, Habib mauled him, but there was no notice. He couldn't even prepare for him.
34:53 The fight before that he fought Edson Barbosa, which if you know anything about Edson Barbosa,
34:58 is he is a tremendous kicker. He is not really known for his boxing, but his kicking game is insane.
35:04 But when you're going against a really, really good grappler, you want the other guy to kick you
35:09 because you're going to catch one of those kicks and you're going to take him down.
35:12 So as long as you don't get kicked in the head and get knocked out, you're going to be good to go.
35:15 So that, you know, that was a mauling. But again, it was against a guy without great boxing.
35:18 The only guy that Habib is really faced that has really, really solid boxing, not a lead level,
35:25 but really solid boxing was the fight before Edson Barbosa when he fought Michael Johnson.
35:29 So Michael Johnson is like a, he's like a fringe ranked guy. So the rankings only go to like 15.
35:35 He's like a somewhere between 15 and 20 type of guy at 155. Like he's good, but he's not outstanding.
35:42 And if you go back and watch that fight, Michael Johnson was peace in Habib up in that first round.
35:47 Just peace in him up. And then finally, he'll be like, all right, I will take you down and
35:51 I will break you like that's just basically what he was doing. So I guess it's prediction time.
35:57 I've like delayed long enough. Again, I can only see this fight going one of two ways.
36:02 And Connor hasn't fought in a really long time, but his boxing is at an elite level,
36:07 especially when he spent basically the entire last year of his career only boxing getting ready for
36:13 Floyd. But I guess gun to my head right now, I have to predict the outcome of this fight in
36:19 order to live and see the future. I would probably put my money on Habib. And you guys know I'm a
36:24 Connor fan. I'm a big Connor fan, even with all of his stupid crap that he's done. But
36:29 Habib's wrestling and grappling is on a completely different level. And so the thing about it is is,
36:35 you know, Habib doesn't finish a lot of fights. Most of his fights go to decision,
36:40 but they're not close decisions. He has a lot of 10, eight rounds. He has some 10, seven rounds.
36:45 So they're incredibly, incredibly lopsided fights. And Connor doesn't have the greatest gas tank
36:50 in the world. He has had a tendency to completely gas out. And so if he doesn't knock out Habib in
36:55 the first two rounds, I think those last three rounds are just going to be a slog. So again,
37:02 gun to my head, I got to go with Habib. But then I think the thing that's interesting to talk about
37:06 from here is what happens after the fight. So if Connor wins or loses or if Habib wins or loses,
37:11 like what does it look like after the fight? Here are my predictions. So you know, hold me to it,
37:15 we can laugh at him later if I'm really, really wrong. But I think if Connor wins,
37:19 he's going to fight GSP at 155 or 165. And so guys are like, well, there's not 165 pound division.
37:27 The UFC has been toying with the idea of 165 pound division for a long time now. So that would
37:33 essentially go, they would have a 155, they've had a, they would have a 165, welterweight would
37:38 move to 175. And then you would have 185. So if y'all know anything about GSP, he was obviously
37:43 the long time 170 pound champion. And then he came back and fight Michael, thought Michael Bizman at
37:49 185. But you know, that was kind of a one time deal. But we've seen some evidence that GSP has
37:54 been doing some like test cuts down to 155 maybe. And so potentially he's gearing himself up for
38:01 a fight like that. But again, it would kind of be one of those deals that have Connor beats Habib.
38:06 And then they open up the 165 pound division and they have the two, two of the biggest three fighters
38:11 in the history of the UFC fight each other and Connor and GSP, that would be gigantic. So if
38:15 Connor wins, I think he fights GSP, or he's going to try to fight Floyd again. Like I feel like within
38:19 a week of this next fight, him and Floyd are going to start john back and forth of Connor wins. And
38:24 you know, I don't know that the world is necessarily wanting to see that fight again, but doesn't mean
38:28 they won't make it and won't make a lot of money. So that's my opinion of Connor wins because Connor's
38:32 not going to, you know, fight Tony Ferguson and then Kevin Lee and then, you know,
38:37 Dustin Poirier again, like he's not going to do that. Like that just doesn't make a lot of sense.
38:41 He's going to make huge money, huge fights. And those guys aren't going to get him huge fights.
38:44 So if Connor loses, I think it's pretty clear he's going to fight Nate Diaz for a third time.
38:49 So, you know, put a bow on that trilogy. This one will be at 155 because Nate Diaz is fighting
38:54 later this year. He's fighting Dustin Poirier at Madison Square Garden. But if Nate Diaz beats
38:58 Dustin Poirier and you gave him the option, Hey, you can fight for the belt or you can fight Connor,
39:02 he's going to fight Connor. Whether Connor has the belt or not, especially if Connor doesn't
39:07 have the belt, that's where he's going to make all the money's fighting Connor again. That's where he's
39:10 made the majority of his money so far. So if Connor loses, I really think he fights Nate Diaz or,
39:15 to be honest, I think he might retire. You know, he got a hundred million dollars or so for fighting
39:19 Floyd Mayweather. He's going to get a unbelievable amount of money for this fight against Beeb. Like
39:24 I said, a lot of people are predicting that this may go over the two million pay-per-views
39:28 pay-per-view buys, which would blow the doors off of his own records. But anyway, that's what I think
39:34 if Connor loses. If Beeb wins, I think he fights Tony Ferguson and if Beeb loses, I think he fights
39:39 Tony Ferguson. So that's basically the thing for MMA fans, UFC fans. I think Habib versus Tony Ferguson
39:46 has been canceled. If not four times, I think three times, I'm pretty sure it's three or four times,
39:50 they've been scheduled and something happened. Injuries or someone doesn't make way or something
39:55 like that. These guys have never been able to fight. So I think regardless of what happens,
39:59 Tony Ferguson's fighting on the same card. He's fighting before Connor. Some people think is
40:03 because if Connor, her Beeb drop out, then he kind of hops into the to the show. But at the end of
40:07 the day, Connor and Habib are fighting each other next. Like there are no two ways about it. So
40:12 I know I spent quite a bit of time on that, but guys, it's an absolutely huge, huge fight. And so
40:16 again, I kind of feel bad for picking against my boy, but just how it goes. All right, next question.
40:21 What's the role Christian should play in the lives of people in the LGBTQ community? How should we
40:28 respond that asked if they need to change in order to have a relationship with Jesus? And so a very
40:34 good question. This was actually given to me by a guy who does some campus ministry here in the
40:39 United States. And so I think this is a really important question that he asked me. The thing
40:43 about it guys is what role should we play in the lives of people in the LGBTQ community? It's the
40:48 exact same role we should play in the lives of a non LGBTQ people, the exact same role.
40:54 Like we share the gospel. We live it out. We support them. We point out their sinfulness
41:02 in the areas where it's appropriate. We correct them if needed and be in community.
41:07 I mean, I don't feel like this is very hard. I think people think of that category of people
41:13 as being some sort of interesting thing like, Oh, we should, you know, we should come about
41:18 this thing a whole whole differently and kind of go a different route. I don't really have that
41:22 same viewpoint. I mean, they're still people. They're still sinners. It's just that society has given
41:27 them a category to put themselves in so that we can't talk about them as easily or that so that
41:34 we can't identify them more easily. Right. It's kind of one of those things that I think it's
41:38 really, really important for us to not treat them as if they're wholly different from somebody else
41:43 from somebody who's straight that just struggles with a different kind of sin. Again, society would
41:48 tell you that this is just who they are. Right. They were born this way. Thank you, Lady Gaga,
41:52 right? Like that's, that's the thing. But we as Christians know that that's not it.
41:56 Like they are a product of a broken world. Like what they are doing, their particular kind of sin
42:01 is a product of a broken world, just like your particular kind of sin is, guys, like that's all
42:06 a product of a brokenness. So Jesus, you know, God, God can use that. But it's one of those
42:13 things that they're still broken. They're in need of the gospel. But kind of the second part of that
42:17 is that they ask if they should change in order to have a relationship with Jesus. They don't need
42:21 to change anything to come to Jesus. Now, don't start freaking out to come to Jesus. They don't need
42:26 to change anything because Jesus takes on all sins and takes on all sinners. Right. We know that to
42:31 be true, but they don't need to be cleaned up before they get to him. He cleans them up. Right.
42:40 Now, after they accept him, transformation of whatever their sinful lives are desires will almost
42:47 certainly have to follow. Right. It will have to happen. So it's kind of one of those things
42:53 that I've talked to people before. When I've talked to them about the gospel, they're like,
42:56 man, I just gosh, I just, I'm just way too messed up right now. Like I'm doing too many drugs. I'm
43:02 I got too many girlfriends. I got too many things going on. Like I got to get my life cleaned up
43:05 before I can come to Jesus. And the thing is, is some people are like, yeah, man, I get it. I get
43:10 it. Well, you know, holler back at me when you get that all figured out. It's like, no, like,
43:14 Jesus didn't say, all right, go and take care of all your sins and take care of all your bad
43:20 habits and then come back to me and I will heal you. No, no, no, he's healing them at the front end.
43:24 And then their lives are irrevocably changed on the back end. Right. And so, again, I think it's
43:30 so important not to put these people in a different category because society has like put them in
43:35 the category. If you're going to put them in any category, put them in the category of lost
43:38 sinner, put them in that category, and then work on them from there. All right. Next question, guys,
43:44 who are your top three favorite speakers? Why and are there specific books or videos that you
43:50 would suggest? So in terms of speakers, I really don't like self healthy stuff. So I know a lot
43:58 of people like like John Maxwell or Simon Sinek and all like guys like that, those people drive me
44:04 insane. They've written the same book over and over and over and over again. And it's not really
44:09 doing anything different. And so I guess when I think about speakers, I do typically lean
44:14 more towards people that are like pastors or people that have podcasts. And so when I was
44:18 singing through my top three, I narrowed it down to these guys. So the first is Matt Chandler,
44:22 which, boom, surprise, surprise, another podcast where I mentioned Matt Chandler. But
44:25 again, he's the lead teaching pastor at the village church down in Dallas. Just an awesome,
44:29 awesome guy. Episode 22 of this podcast, God is for God kind of gives you a sense of who he is.
44:35 So I would certainly suggest you go back and listen to that one. But two things that I really
44:40 would suggest by Matt Chandler that you guys check out. The first is his book explicit gospel,
44:45 the explicit gospel. I have suggested this book over and over pretty sure on this podcast. But
44:49 it's one of the first books I put on the website for, you know, the 100 books every modern Christian
44:54 man should read that that's on there. It's a great, great book. But also if you have like a Sunday
44:59 school or a home study or a group that meets in your house, like a couples group or something,
45:05 his series called a beautiful design is incredible. I think it's 11 weeks. And there's a book that
45:11 goes along with it. I've listened to all the sermons on my own. I've watched them on my own.
45:16 I've led a group of married couples through this. It is absolutely, absolutely fantastic.
45:20 Another speaker would be Tim Keller. So if you don't know him, he is a pastor of the
45:26 Presbyterian Church in New York City. And so he's been called, you know, a modern day CS Lewis. So
45:31 it's a pretty high compliments on a guy like this. When you listen to him, he's not going to
45:36 blow your socks off with how he presents. He's not a fiery presenter. He's a very kind of calculated,
45:43 very intellectual presenter. But really, he's super solid. The podcast that they have out for
45:48 Tim Keller, they release like just a handful of episodes a year. So it's not like, it's not like
45:54 something they release continuously, like it kind of keeps you caught up with his latest sermons or
45:58 whatever. So I'm not really sure what that's about. If any of you all know, please hit me up and let
46:01 me know. But you can go back and listen to a lot of his old sermons and they're fantastic. But a
46:06 book I would highly, highly recommend again, one of the very earliest books on the book list
46:10 was reason for God, reason for God. Fantastic book I've talked about on the podcast before.
46:15 But essentially the first seven chapters of the book are the like the top seven objections he would
46:19 get to the existence of God while he was working and running his ministry in New York. And the last
46:24 seven chapters are basically reason based arguments for why believing in God is reasonable, right?
46:31 Just absolutely fantastic. So Tim Keller would probably be another one. And the last one would
46:36 be Ben Shapiro. And so I know if you're not someone who's on the conservative side of a political
46:41 aisle, you may not have a great opinion of who Ben Shapiro is. But the thing about Ben Shapiro
46:47 is he is an incredibly gifted debater. So if you've seen him speak, his speeches are okay,
46:53 they can be funny at times and they're they're informative. But watching him do Q&A and watching
46:58 him debate, either with someone across the stage from him or somebody in the audience,
47:02 he is absolutely fantastic. So even if you don't agree with this point of views, I mean, he's an
47:06 orthodox Jew who is very, very conservative politically. Even if you're not either one of
47:11 those things or you can't align with either of those things or square those, he's still a great
47:15 person to watch. Just how he goes through debates, he really doesn't allow any wiggle room. When
47:20 people are trying to like weasel out of a of an answer or something like that, he just kind of
47:24 goes right after him. And again, a great way to get some more information on Ben Shapiro is just
47:28 listening to his podcast. He released an episode six days a week. So he's got his normal show
47:33 during the week Monday through Friday. And then he just released a new show on Sundays where he's
47:38 basically doing long form interview, discussion interviews with people. And those have been
47:42 fantastic, fantastic so far. So again, my top three favorite speakers would be Matt Chandler,
47:47 Tim Keller and Ben Shapiro. All right, next question. How do we combat the argument that
47:53 church is boring to mainly men with no history in the church? What changes need are needed.
47:59 Is there too much traditionalism for it to be effective in modern day American men?
48:04 Okay, so a lot of good stuff here and we've touched on some of this before, but it's a really well
48:08 worded and well done question. The very first thing is, is we shouldn't hide the fact that
48:13 church will be boring for a lot of guys. Like we essentially we can't hide it. Because it is.
48:19 For a lot of modern men, manly men that don't have a church background, it is boring. And the
48:26 same goes for people that do have a church background. They come to church and they're bored. And really
48:32 they shouldn't be. Like think about all the things you spend your time on and your effort on and
48:37 these things are incredibly stimulating and exciting. And why is church not like that? They
48:43 really shouldn't be that way. And I think there's there's several things that I would do that would
48:48 change to change that. First is to really drive a wedge between the idea that a church is a building,
48:54 right? Because it's not the churches of people. The Echlesia, it's a people, right? And so I think
49:00 so many men think, okay, I got to get dressed in this collared shirt and and drive into a building
49:06 where I just I'm supposed to smile and tell everybody how happy I am and how much I'm praying
49:10 for them. And listen to this crappy music and these stupid sermons and just that's that's what
49:15 it is in their brain, because they don't see it as a community. They don't see it as a group of
49:19 people. And guys, I've fallen into this as well, where I go to these churches and there's there's
49:22 no community. And part of that is my fault. And then I just, you know, want to stop going allow,
49:27 this is boring. This isn't meeting my needs type of a thing. But another thing I think that would be
49:30 a big help for guys is no more no more beta male preachers and pastors. Again, I'm kind of picking
49:36 on beta males as podcasts. But for men to follow another man, they have to see themselves as as
49:42 wanting to follow that person, that person like having qualities that they would want.
49:48 And in so many pastors, lead teaching pastors are just people that you just, gosh, you just wouldn't
49:53 want them in your foxhole. They you'd want them advising you on a spiritual matter, but you really
49:58 wouldn't want them going through the crap with you. And it's because they're betas, like you really
50:03 want that. You know, another change I would make would be, you know, no more boyfriend Jesus worship
50:08 music. And again, I keep hinting at it. I promise you an episode is coming where I'm going to spend
50:12 the entire time talking about modern worship music, but it is pushing men away. It's pushing
50:17 alphas away. It's pushing manly men away. When they look at the lyrics, and even if in their
50:23 fullness of their heart, they want to sing them, they're just like, sounds like I'm singing to my
50:26 boyfriend. Yeah, just weird. I thought this was like the Lord of the universe. And here we are
50:32 talking about how we want to hug him and cuddle him and all those things. So I would change that.
50:36 Another thing, you know, change no more TED talks with Bible verses. I've said that a lot in this
50:41 podcast, but no more TED talks with Bible verses where it's like, okay, here's the pastor's opinion.
50:46 And we're just going to sprinkle some scripture on top of that. Like, I don't think men are really
50:50 attracted to that. I think men are attracted to being challenged. You know, soggin to this pastor
50:55 out on in South Carolina. And they have a really thriving group of men that go to their church,
51:01 like an absolutely fired up group of men. It's because the pastor challenges them directly.
51:05 And he works at a church. He runs a church where there's a lot of special operations guys
51:11 that go to the church. And man, it's just kind of one of those things where those guys can kind of
51:16 tell they can smell a beta from a mile away, right? And so this is it's a different mindset. And they
51:23 kind of go at worship a little bit differently. But the other thing that this question brought
51:26 up is talked about traditionalism, like our church is too traditional. The stats actually show the
51:31 opposite that when church are more traditionalistic, it leads to stronger Christianity and stronger
51:37 involvement from the men. That, you know, traditionalism means strict adherence to the Bible.
51:42 It's not like the Bible plus. And I guess what I mean by the Bible plus is, you know, it's not,
51:48 you know, the pastor's opinions plus scripture, which is what we said. It's not the Bible plus
51:53 modern culture. It's not the Bible plus social justice warrior language changes. It's not that.
51:59 It's just the Bible. And then we look at it, you know, we get it exegeted from the pastor,
52:04 from the pulpit, and then we try to live it out. And so those are things that I think are
52:08 really incredibly, incredibly important. And again, I could have gone into the entire
52:14 podcast and just talked about this one question. It's a really, really well done question. There's
52:18 a lot of things that need to be changed for things to be more attractive inside the church for men.
52:22 But those are a few that I would start with. All right, next question. If you could go back in
52:27 time and experience one event in history, what would it be and why? So I guess I'll give you the
52:33 duh answer and then I'll come up with a better one. But the duh answer would be the resurrection.
52:38 So that's kind of like the hinge point of the entirety of Christianity.
52:43 So I would like to just kind of chill outside the tomb just to make sure just to make sure none
52:48 crazy went on and all that like again, I feel like we have a lot of evidence that tells us exactly
52:53 what happened. But if you could witness any event in history, I would want to witness a
52:58 crucifixion in the resurrection. I mean, as gruesome as that would be to watch, it would be
53:03 something that I would want to watch. And then I guess the other thing that I would look at,
53:08 gosh, man, there's so many different things that I would want to look at. I thought about maybe
53:13 going back and watching the Battle of Gettysburg or maybe watching some of the battles between
53:18 Greece and Sparta. Just different thing or Troy and Sparta, sorry, I think I messed it up. But
53:27 going and watching some of those ancient battles I think would be really, really interesting.
53:31 But as morbid and as weird as this might sound, I would like to go witness Julius Caesar being
53:37 assassinated. Like again, I know that sounds completely, completely strange, but it was such an insane
53:42 event. Just think about it. It was a murder that we we talk about thousands of years later.
53:47 Like, like think about the number of murders that that have happened in the history of the planet.
53:53 And I think that would be a really, really interesting thing to kind of watch, like to see
53:57 the the looks on the faces of the senators as Julius Caesar's walking in. And especially the
54:03 conspirators that that actually took him out. Like, I just think that would be really, really
54:07 interesting to watch. So yeah, I don't know if that like makes me a complete weirdo to want to
54:11 watch that. But I think that'd be interesting to see. All right, guys, next question. What advice
54:16 do you have for this generation of instant gratification individuals who seem to not be
54:20 prepared for a rainy day in terms of financial responsibility? Okay, guys, this is something that
54:26 I actually deal with a lot in in my my normal everyday job. But the thing about it is a lot of
54:32 young people will say millennials will pick on the millennials, right? So these are these are
54:36 individuals who are spending a lot of money up front in their careers, going on these big lavish
54:42 vacations, just doing a lot of big living earlier in their lives. And then, you know, they start
54:48 saving for retirement, maybe in their mid to late 30s, something like that. The thing about it,
54:54 and this kind of gets into the psychology of what's happened. A lot of these individuals have watched
54:58 either their parents or their grandparents or their their friends, parents or grandparents.
55:02 They've watched these people save their entire lives. So they were saving for that trip or saving
55:09 for that car, that sports car, or saving for for something in retirement. And then they watch
55:14 them get to retirement, they get into their mid to late 60s. And you know what, they don't want
55:19 to go walk around the Coliseum anymore. Like, you know, their body hurts, they haven't taken care of
55:24 their body. And so they don't want to spend all that time on an airplane, and then go over there
55:28 and walk around and have their feet hurt walking around on the cobblestone roads and all these
55:34 different things. And so I think some of them instinctively are like, man, why do I want to live
55:39 for later whenever I can do things now? And so they are certainly sacrificing the future for now.
55:46 And so this would be the advice I would give to people that are in that generation is that
55:51 retirement's coming for everybody. And the reality is, is that in general, people are living longer.
55:56 Social security will not be there. I'd be, you know, absolutely surprised to see it last another
56:02 decade. But it's not going to be there. So there's not that safety net that some people have had.
56:06 And I don't think even if a Bernie type person gets into office, there's not really going to be a
56:11 safety net for you provided by the government either, or at least not one that you would want.
56:15 And so I think that there is a balance that you can have between living a big and, you know,
56:22 fulfilling life early, when your body works and when you have energy and you have all those
56:27 different things, but you have to be putting away something for the future. Like you have to have
56:32 oh crap money, like, oh crap, my wife and I lost our jobs on the same day. We need to be able to
56:37 eat food for the next 30 days, 90 days, you know, 180 days, we need to be able to have that money
56:43 there. So that's something that's important. But also nothing can be a compound interest.
56:48 Guys, you got to start that interest going as early as possible because then it just gets super,
56:52 super sweet in your old age. And so at the end of the day, I know a lot of people don't care.
56:57 The reality is, is the statistics are pretty damning. That only about 7% of Americans,
57:03 if they work their current financial plan, are going to be able to retire someday and stay retired.
57:08 Only 7% and that's crazy. 93% of America's 93 out of 100 American adults is not going to be able to
57:16 retire and stay retired. And that's the important thing when we talk about retirement is it's both
57:20 of those things. It's not just stopping working someday. It's never having to go back. So the
57:24 thing that we're seeing a lot now is people will retire at 65. They've got, you know, 10 years worth
57:30 of money. They're 75. They're alive. They're completely healthy. And now they're broke.
57:36 Right? And they're wondering, how did I get here? Well, it's because you didn't plan, right?
57:39 You didn't have anybody helping you. And so these are people that at the age of 75 or maybe even
57:44 older, they're having to go and work a job that they don't want to. Maybe stocking shelves or
57:49 greeting people at the front of a store and, you know, gainful employment is gainful employment.
57:52 So I'm certainly not diminishing that. But, you know, it's, it's a problem for a lot of people.
57:56 So the thing is, is you don't want to be in those shoes, but every year that you don't make a decision
58:01 to start saving for retirement is just a year that you'll never be able to get back.
58:04 And on a lot of ways, you're not going to be able to catch up either. And what I've seen is people,
58:09 you know, when they're 25, they're like, ah, I can wait a while when they're 35. Oh, you know,
58:13 we'll deal with that later when the kids are grown. Oh, I'm 45 now. Gosh, things are just way too busy
58:18 and complicated. Life's too expensive. And now they're 55. And they're like, okay, I'm really
58:21 gonna buckle down and start retiring. It's almost too late at that point. So a little bit of a problem.
58:26 All right. Next question is a hot dog, a sandwich. Okay, is a hot dog a sandwich? All right. So,
58:32 yeah, why wouldn't a hot dog be a sandwich? I know I've seen people debate this, but it's
58:37 bread that you fold over meat seems like it's a sandwich, right? I don't know if there's like,
58:43 if there needs to be more nuance to this question, but it's like, I don't know if you have like a
58:48 Reuben and someone's like, Oh, that's a good looking sandwich. And you were like, no, it's not a
58:51 sandwich. It's a Reuben or it's not a sandwich. It's a hot ham and cheese. Like that'd be ridiculous.
58:55 It'd be like, Oh, cool sandwich. We're like, it's a hot dog. Like, I don't know, that's weird. I don't
58:59 know who snuck this question in there. Next question. Actually, well, how many questions we got left?
59:03 We got a couple of questions left here. So stick with me. Next question. What is something that you
59:08 believe that other people think is crazy? Okay, that's a cool question. Um, I guess the first thing
59:13 is, is that baseball is the greatest sport ever, right? I got tons of people that would disagree
59:18 with me on that. Just go back to episode 15 of this podcast. It was called baseball is life.
59:23 If you want to get my really romantic views on on baseball, but that's not a super popular opinion.
59:29 I mean, again, I live right smack dab in the middle of college football country. And so everyone's
59:33 just like, Oh, football is bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, even though they didn't go to the
59:36 school they're rooting for never played it down to football. But that's neither here nor there for
59:40 those people. But that's a that's an opinion that people think is crazy. They think baseball is
59:44 boring and blah, blah, blah, because they don't understand it. They never played whatever, whatever.
59:47 I guess some other things that I think are that people think are crazy. And this is going to make
59:53 some of you go insane. There's a lot of super, super popular bands or singers that I think
59:59 are just atrocious, like almost unfathomably bad. And so again, get ready for your job to hit the
1:00:07 floor here. So the Beatles, you two, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, Nirvana, Led Zeppelin,
1:00:17 Black Sabbath. I mean, these bands are awful. They're so bad. And people like, no, they mean so much
1:00:25 music and they mean so much of this and blah, blah, blah. All I know is when their music comes on,
1:00:30 my ears start to hurt. They're just bad. And then I guess we'll just keep going with this.
1:00:35 Things that people think I'm crazy. I'm kind of that way with movies as well.
1:00:38 There's a lot of movies that a ton of people think are awesome that I think are just terrible.
1:00:44 So let's go to all the Lord of the Rings. Those were terrible. Any Star Wars movie that I've ever
1:00:50 seen all those were bad. Like, I can't believe people watched those and actually enjoy them.
1:00:54 What's another one? Oh, Godfather part one and part two, really? You're telling me Godfather
1:01:00 part two is the greatest movie ever? I spent six hours of my life in college and I'll never be
1:01:04 able to get that time back. I just didn't get it. I was like, this is the movie? And people were
1:01:09 like, Oh, well, what do you want? Just blow them up, shoot them up? Are you just not, you know,
1:01:13 sophisticated enough? No, no, I just I want to be entertained. I don't want to be bored. And all
1:01:18 those movies were super, super boring. So I guess those are some other things. And then obviously
1:01:23 you all know that I think modern worship music is almost completely garbage. So there's a few
1:01:28 things. So if you liked me up to this point, maybe you don't like me anymore because those
1:01:32 things, but hopefully I can save you with the last question here. So let's launch in last question
1:01:36 of the day. What are the best tools for a man to keep his masculinity and his Christian orthodoxy
1:01:42 and survive in our current culture? Okay, so you could go a lot of different ways with this question,
1:01:47 but I'll just try to keep it simple here. The first thing that I would say is to actually study
1:01:53 scripture. So notice how I didn't say just, you know, scripture reading, it's actual scriptural
1:01:59 study. And so that's one adjustment that I've made for me in my Bible study for this year,
1:02:04 is that I'm going to take deep dives into books. So I'm about to take a deep dive into Romans,
1:02:09 because just reading through stuff, you can pick some things up. But if you don't understand
1:02:14 the nuance or the context or things like that, it could be a problem for you. Some other tools
1:02:19 would be just podcasts and books, you know, ones that agree with you, but also podcasts and books
1:02:24 from perspectives that you actually disagree with. So maybe listen to an atheist podcast,
1:02:29 or a podcast that disagrees with you politically, or on a subject matter that you don't typically
1:02:34 find incredibly entertaining or exciting. So I think those would be things that would be good
1:02:39 for you to kind of go through and look at. Yeah, aside from that, it's basically whatever
1:02:46 content is out there that keeps you cultivating spiritual, mental and physical resilience daily.
1:02:51 I mean, for a lot of guys, the spiritual stuff is easy for them. They love the Bible study.
1:02:55 They love doing those types of things for other guys. It's kind of hard. So that's the one you
1:02:58 need to cultivate. You know, some guys don't really do books or podcasts. It's just like, oh, it's
1:03:02 too much too much learning, blah, blah, blah. They have really small minded viewpoints. So that's
1:03:06 the one they need to look at. You have these other guys that are just squishy, you know,
1:03:09 they're just not tough physically. And that's something that they need to look at. So in terms
1:03:14 of the tools that you need to keep your masculinity, I think you guys know where you fall short.
1:03:18 I think it doesn't really take a whole lot of introspection to basically deal with that and to
1:03:25 figure out your your blind spots or your areas that you really need to work on. And here's the
1:03:31 thing, if you're that guy who just doesn't have any idea, I have no clue what I'm terrible at and
1:03:36 what I would have worked on, ask your friends, ask your friends, ask your coworkers that you trust,
1:03:42 ask your spouse, like ask your family. Like, I believe they will give you some good feedback.
1:03:48 I mean, if they're good people, I think that they'll give you some super, super
1:03:52 solid feedback on all that. So again, guys, you can find the tools, you just have to be willing to
1:03:57 go out there and take care of it. So guys, as always, thank you so much for giving me those questions.
1:04:01 If you have questions that you want to ask for the podcast, again, I say this all the time,
1:04:06 but you can either email me or respond in some of the social medias or guys, if you're out there
1:04:11 and you know me and you have my number, just text it my way, I kind of put everything into a bank,
1:04:15 and then I kind of get them all together. And then we think about how we can put the questions
1:04:19 in there later. So the email is just info@undaunted.life info@undaunted.life. And obviously, you can follow
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1:04:30 All right, guys, for let you out of here, we're going to do a quick resilience boost. As you know,
1:04:33 by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating manly resilience. Specifically,
1:04:38 we do that by providing content that for just spiritual, mental, and physical toughness. And
1:04:42 today I've got something that I need from you guys. Okay, so I've been looking at a lot of different
1:04:47 podcasts and I'm actually going to be doing a podcast at the end of this year where I go into
1:04:51 my favorite podcast episodes for the year. But I would like your recommendations for good manly
1:04:58 podcasts for podcasts that specifically help you cultivate spiritual mental and physical resilience.
1:05:03 So I've got a lot of good ones that I listen to. I've suggested a lot of them on this show on this
1:05:08 podcast. But if there are others out there that you think I need to be listening to, I will give
1:05:13 every one of them a try. So I've brought a lot of podcasts in that I've almost sent out just as
1:05:17 quickly as I brought them in because they just don't really fit. But that's the thing I want
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