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This is a Daunted Life of Man's Podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.
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All right, guys. We got Q&A this week. It's been a little bit since we've done an episode with Q&A.
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Questions have been piling up, so let's launch in. Question number one. In Oklahoma, state
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question 788 recently passed in favor of medical marijuana opening the door for recreational marijuana.
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Is this good for your state and the people? So I appreciate this question. Thanks a lot. This
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is like the first question. So let's get started off of the bang, I guess. So just so everyone knows,
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I am in Edmond, Oklahoma and the state of Oklahoma. Yes, there was the medical marijuana
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legislation initiative. That's basically what this was. And so that was on the ballot here in my
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home state on June 26th of this year. And so essentially a yes vote on state question 788,
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well, that supported the measure to legalize the licensed cultivation, use and possession of
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marijuana for medicinal purposes. So that is what a yes vote got. So this passed, which was very
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surprising to a lot of Oklahomans and a lot of pundits really around the country that this pass.
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And it passed with a pretty big majority. So as a 57%, around 57% majority, there were over 500,000
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votes for yes on this. So before I get into really the question that was asked here, and I appreciate
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the listener for sending this in before I really get into that, I'll just kind of get into like
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my personal views on marijuana use just in general before we get into all the technical side.
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So for me, that is not a substance that I have ever used. I've never smoked marijuana. I've never
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had any edibles. I've never done anything like that. And frankly, it's never appealed to me.
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So it was kind of the same thing. Like when I first started watching people abuse marijuana,
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it was whenever around the same time I was watching people abuse alcohol. And so when I saw these
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people using these substances, I was just like, God, y'all are losers. Like you're 15 years old,
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16 years old, you're so high, you don't know what's going on, or you're paranoid, or you're just
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completely worthless, or you're getting high all the time, and you're not taking care of your grades
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or the people in your life. Like you're so drunk, you have to like walk on all fours to the bathroom,
2:41
so you can go throw up. So I mean, really, it's just kind of one of those things where it just
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never appealed to me. Because when people were using it, it was just like, they weren't using
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it for medicinal purposes. They were just using it to get high, right? And so it's just kind of
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one of those things that never really appealed to me. Like same thing, like I was saying with
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alcohol, I had my first drink when I was 20. And I was in Europe, so it was legal at the time. So
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it was just not something it wasn't like some sort of like prudish thing. Like, Oh, I'm just going to
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be super conservative and not doing anything bad. It was just like, I saw people doing it,
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and I just didn't see the utility of doing it myself. And so you fast forward to June 26 of this
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year when the state question comes up, I voted no on state question 788. And you would think,
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well, yeah, of course, because you've never done it. And you ignored all the positives and all those
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different things. But but here's the thing is whenever I do any type of voting, so especially
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on state questions, where it's going not just to elect a person that might change a law,
3:34
but electing or basically making a decision about something that will become law. I make sure that
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I'm that I'm up on my information, that I'm not just kind of pulling information on my butt or
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using oversimplified arguments. And so here's kind of the reasons why I voted no. And I really,
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I kind of go all over the place, I'll try to keep all my thoughts straight here. But the first thing
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was is that people in favor of legalizing medical marijuana in Oklahoma said that it would kill the
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black market, right? That was one of the things that they said is like, you know, if it's legal,
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then we don't have the black market. And this is not true at all. It's literally not true at all.
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If anything and not really if anything, this definitely has happened. The black market goes up.
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It explodes. I mean, it certainly has in Colorado, right? That was the first state
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to legalize recreational marijuana use the black market skyrockets. Because here's the thing,
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these Mexican drug cartels, they make, you know, like some people assume these are like random
4:29
reports and things like that. But 15 to 25% of their revenue is from marijuana, right?
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So the rest of it comes from like, you know, extortion or kidnapping or human trafficking,
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other drugs, stuff like that. And so the thing is, is these cartels, they are helped by the legal,
4:46
legalization of marijuana, because more people will become addicted or more people will just want
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to smoke it without being addicted, right? They're not actually addicted. They just want to smoke it.
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And there's going to be a lot of people that are like, well, why in the world now that I smoke
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marijuana, why would I want to go and pay extra pay a premium and do it through the government and
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them know my purchasing habits with the substances and things like that? Why wouldn't I just go to
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the dude around the corner, right? So that that was one of the things that was out there is it was
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just like a really stupid view that people are like, Oh, the black market's just going to disappear.
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That was really ridiculous. The other thing that people said that were in favor of legalization,
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they said that this would defeat the opioid epidemic. And it won't that there's there's really no
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tangible non anecdotal arguments that show that the opioid epidemic is stemmed whenever there's
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recreational or medicinal marijuana that's been introduced into that populace. It's just not there.
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So I understand why people would say that. Like, you know, why not smoke a joint as opposed to
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getting a prescription for oxycodone? Like I get the argument. The argument is just a dumb one.
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There's also people that were in favor of this that said it would decrease the number of people
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that were incarcerated for, you know, marijuana, marijuana related arrests. And this isn't true
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at all. So here's the thing is, yes, a law like this and similar ones around the country,
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it kind of decriminalizes marijuana possession for personal use. But but there's a reality here
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that I don't think people realize. And that is that that most people are not in jail just because
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they had personal amounts of marijuana. And actually, I looked this up, it constitutes 0.3%.
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So 0.3% of state inmates are incarcerated for marijuana possession. I just think about that.
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Think about the things that you heard about, you know, the decriminalization. It's like,
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it's ridiculous. Almost 100% of the people incarcerated are incarcerated for trafficking,
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not possession. So you always hear that and it's just like, no, that's completely,
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completely wrong. And here's the other thing that's kind of on the no side of this question,
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is there are, there will be large increases in marijuana, marijuana related DUIs.
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It just has to be that way, right? Now, some people quote those stats incorrectly,
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because obviously, if there was no medicinal marijuana and then all of a sudden it comes in,
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of course, you're going to have, you know, there's going to be a more ubiquitous nature of use of
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this particular drug. But marijuana related DUIs skyrocket, right? And again, the black market
7:05
doesn't go away. So it's not, I mean, we're not really going to have those same issues. And so,
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these these guys that are trafficking in marijuana now are not going to just stop trafficking once
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it's become legal. They're still going to get arrested. And there are also people that were in
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favor of this that said, you know, it would solve specifically for my state that it would solve
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the state funding issues for education and education overall. Because here's the thing,
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is there is an education epidemic in the state of Oklahoma. Even if you're not from my state,
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you probably saw some of the highlights and, and you know, the overhead shots outside the state
7:35
capital, all these teachers and people and supportive teachers for these pay raises and things like
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that, just trying to get us up to the national average. And here's the thing I get it. But the
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thing is, is we've been sold this bill of goods as Oaky's a lot. We've been sold all these different
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things that was going to fix education in our state. So we were told that these tax increases
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that we're about to have that that's supposed to fix education, right? It's going to keep our best
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teachers here and get our kids over the hump. That, and that's not true. We were told, you know,
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that paying these teachers more is going to is going to all of a sudden make these kids
8:07
be better and these teachers will be better. That doesn't necessarily mean that's going to happen
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just because you pay them more doesn't automatically make them better at their jobs. You know, we were
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told that casinos when we brought in the tribal casinos that that was supposed to help us fix
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the educational problem. And we still have it. We were the lottery when they brought the lottery
8:26
to the state of Oklahoma, that was supposed to fix the budget crisis with funding for education.
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That didn't do it. You know, there was like back in the day, there was like a per class liquor tax
8:35
that was supposed to fix everything and that hasn't fixed it either. So these people that are going
8:39
out there basically saying, Hey, let's legalize weed. And then all of a sudden our kids will be
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able to have brand new textbooks every year. It's just it's fallacious. It doesn't make any
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sense whatsoever. Like none whatsoever. So like just stop selling that line. And here's the thing
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is a lot of people, especially the people that were on the pro side here, the yes side,
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they look at Colorado as kind of that shining example of how this is quote unquote working.
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Now here's the thing is Colorado is making money. It's not like an ungodly amount of money like,
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but they are making good, good money at this. But you also have to look at what's happening
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in these other places or what's happening because of what's being done in these areas. So here's the
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thing. Teen use of marijuana in the state of Colorado is 50% higher than anywhere else in the
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United States. Teen use. Now remember, you're you're supposed to not be under the age of 18
9:31
and using using medical marijuana for anything, right? But magically, it's 50% higher than it is
9:39
anywhere else. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out why. And here's the other thing we kind
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of talked about this on the DUI side. But there's been a huge increase in fatal car crashes where
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drivers were under the influence of marijuana, right? And it's also creating issues for cops
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because it's a whole lot harder to determine that somebody is high than it is to determine that
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they're, you know, that they're drunk, right? They just do a breathalyzer test. So you're basically
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having all these cops go out there and they're having to, you know, probably like prove that you're
10:05
high on marijuana using the smell test, you know what I mean? Which is not really a great test.
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Like you could just smell bad. It doesn't necessarily mean you've been smoking weed.
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And some of the other reasons why I really wasn't in support of this was the original wording
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of the state question state question 788 was it was unbelievably liberal and broad. It was
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unbelievably broad. There were there were essentially no qualifying medical conditions listed. So,
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you know, literally, and this is not me being hyperbolic, you could stub your toe and be like,
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ouch, I need a marijuana card. And if you go to a doctor that's open to that, then boom,
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you've got your card, right? There the other thing is in a lot of these areas that have medical
10:43
marijuana or that have recreational now, it all started with medical. So no one just says medical
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marijuana is good enough. It always leads to recreational. And I have my serious misgivings
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and issues with recreational marijuana use. Also, there were no zoning laws as any part of this
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question. So literally, you could be a business owner in a strip center of some sort. And then
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all of a sudden on either side of you, you could have a weed shop, right? And again, it's just kind
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of one of those things where, you know, that's not a reflection of your business, but it may stop
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patrons from coming to you if they're going to be so close to one of those areas. That doesn't
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mean it's right or wrong for those patrons to do that, but it is a reality. And, you know,
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the thing is with any substance, right? So the more readily available a substance is, I mean,
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think alcohol, think cigarettes or whatever, the higher percentage of adolescents are going to
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abuse it. Like we've got statistics and we've got research like out the wazoo on this that whenever
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these things are more available, that teens end up using adolescents end up using it. And here's
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the thing, a lot of people, you know, there's different studies that people try to refute this,
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but all in all, when you look at basically adolescents that are abusing marijuana,
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marijuana contributes to psychosis and schizophrenia and adolescents. There's direct linkages with
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it reducing IQ and adolescents. And here's the other thing that people like try and fight against
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it, but there's really no medical evidence for the contrary about one in six adolescents about
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one in six, they become addicted even after a single use of marijuana. So that doesn't mean
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they're addicted for life. It doesn't mean they can't get out of that hole. But one in six becomes
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addicted after a single use, right? It's like their brains can't possibly turn off the dopamine
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receptors once they took in that that substance, right? So those are just the practical reason. So
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that that's just on my side of things. There was way too much on the no side. And you know, that kind
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of get went against, you know, the libertarian in me, I'm conservative and libertarian on certain
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things. It kind of went against that. But it just didn't make a lot of sense for us to do that. I
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thought I was going to be too much of a public health hazard. I thought it was going to be too
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much of an issue. Because for every one kid that, you know, needs CBD oil in order to take care of
12:53
their seizures or something like that, there's going to be a thousand or 10,000 people that are
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using marijuana just to get high. And so it's just kind of one of those things that I just don't
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know a way that it can be regulated by a highly inefficient government to where it doesn't become
13:05
a detrimental issue. But but again, this is a Christian men's podcast. So what's kind of the
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Christian view on marijuana use? Because here's the thing is the Bible is a lamp unto our feet.
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And the Bible is a guide for a lot of things that we say, but the Bible doesn't explicitly talk
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about everything, right? The Bible doesn't talk about guns. The Bible doesn't talk about,
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you know, nuclear weapons and it doesn't mention marijuana, like by name, right? So how do we kind
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of get into this? So the thing that I did notice with a lot of Christians is that they tend to
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oversimplify the arguments against marijuana. They make it overly simple, which thus makes it
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pretty easy to debunk. And so one thing that I thought was good, I found an article on Christianity
13:48
today. And the article was called when pot is legal, what do we say? When pot is legal,
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what do we say? So this was a pastor that was basically like, look, we know where the culture is
13:57
going, we know where the law is going. So this is going to eventually be legal across the country
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for recreational use. There's almost nothing to stop it, right? And so I would just want to read
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a couple of different things here from this portion of the article, because I thought it was really
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important how he worded it that if you go too much into oversimplified land, it's going to get you
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into trouble. So this is kind of a, a back and forth that he had had with a few people at different
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times. So this is what he would say, pot is bad for you. And our bodies are temples that we need to
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take care of. And this was the response. So is alcohol, tobacco, coffee, and sugar? What is this
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world? What in this world is not bad for you? Bus exhaust causes cancer. And according to California,
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so does everything else. My missionary friends in Nepal constantly fall seriously ill due to
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contaminated water, bacteria, chemicals, etc. Should they abandon their post? Super smog in
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China is killing thousands of people daily. Is it immoral to choose to live in a Chinese city?
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Should I avoid tap water to stay free from the chlorine and fluoride? And then there was another
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argument this guy made is pot is worse than alcohol. You can't use it in moderation. And then here's
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the response. We're specifically how? Certainly not according to any study or basic cursory
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glance at the impact of either substances on our society abroad or individual levels.
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And what about using THC in a way that does not require smoking, such as vapor brownies or pills?
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What about using THC in small doses equivalent to an IPA or a glass of wine? Who measures intoxication?
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Is it a certain percentage? Is there a particular hindrance on one's capacity to function? Is it
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okay to drink two beers? Three? Is tolerance different for different people? And then here's kind of
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the other side that if you're going to make some oversimplified arguments, here's another one.
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Pot is never mentioned in the Bible, but wine is. And then the response to that could be something
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like t-shirts and coffee or not in the Bible either. Take off your shirt and throw away your mug.
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And another argument made here, pot is legal now, which means it is okay for Christians to use.
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So here's the response to that. Is it okay to use the Christian measure of goodness?
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I could be an alcoholic, adulterous, deceitful, prescription abusing, manipulative,
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hate-filled connoisseur of grotesque pornography and still be okay legally and socially.
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Does the government stamp of approval mean I should partake or even can partake with
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with moral uprightness? What about dope smoking is truly profitable for you more importantly for
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your neighbor? What would Jesus smoke? Right? So I thought that was very interesting. The thing is,
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is you find yourself in a trap on either side of the argument when you oversimplify it,
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you're basically just opening up a bear trap that you're going to trip in trip into and it's going
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to get you, right? And then there was another article I found that I thought was particularly
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helpful for Christians that are trying to think through this issue. And it was written by Joe
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Carter who was writing for the gospel coalition and it was called is recreational marijuana use
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a sin. So I just want to read through some of the things that he wrote because this is kind of an
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argumentation breakdown. And I thought it was incredibly helpful. So it's somewhat complicated,
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but just, you know, if you're listening to it at two times speed, bump it down to one and a half
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or something like that, just so you can get it. But I'll try to read it so we can all nail it. Okay,
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so here's Joe Carter. To provide an answer rooted in scripture in Christian ethics, we must use
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analogical reasoning. In his essay, the place of scripture in Christian ethics, James Gustafson
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states the commonly accepted method of scriptural analogy. Those actions of persons and groups are
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to be judged morally wrong, which are similar to actions that are judged to be wrong or against
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God's will under similar circumstances in scripture, or are discordant with actions judged to be right
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or in accord with God's will in scripture. While this may seem rather obvious, it raises the question
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of how we determine whether an action or circumstance is similar to an action judged to be wrong in
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scripture. Legal scholar case Sustine explains how we apply analogical reasoning. This kind of
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thinking has a simple structure. One, a has characteristic x. Okay, number one, a has characteristic x.
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Number two, b shares that characteristic. Number three, a also has characteristic y.
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Number four, because a and b share characteristic x, we conclude what is not yet known that b shares
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characteristic y as well. Is there an analogical action that is judged to be wrong or against God's
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will that's similar to the recreational use of marijuana? Indeed, there is a clear example
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that is mentioned frequently in the Bible drunkenness. At the end of this article are several scriptural
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references to drunkenness and sobriety drunkenness in the Bible is the state of being intoxicated
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by alcohol. A, intoxication by alcohol ingestion has characteristic x produces a psychoactive effect,
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that is, affects brain function, resulting in alterations in perception, mood, consciousness,
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cognition, and behavior. B, intoxication by marijuana ingestion shares that characteristic.
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Because a and b share characteristic x, we conclude what is not yet known that b shares characteristic
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y, which is an action that is judged to be against God's will, i.e., is sinful reasoning by analogy,
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we can we can determine that since it is sinful to become intoxicated by alcohol,
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it is sinful to become intoxicated by marijuana. So if you didn't get all that, guys, I got to be
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honest, I had to read it a couple times through my brain just doesn't work that efficiently,
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but I finally got it. Go back and just rewind like just, you know, you got 15 second rewind,
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boom, boom, boom, just go back and hear that again, because that's incredibly important. Again,
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when we look at things that are explicitly talked about in the Bible, and then we're trying to
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look at things that are not explicitly talked about in the Bible, we have to use the Bible as
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our guideline. It's just, it's what's make the most sense to us, right? But as we kind of wrap up
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this question, the best argument that I heard for the use of or against the use of marijuana
19:40
was by pastor Jeff Lacey. And I think it's how he says last name. And he wrote this for desiring
19:44
God. And the article is called marijuana to the glory of God question mark, right? Marijuana
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to the glory of God kind of thing. And so this was a pastor up in Portland, because of course you
19:52
would be up in Portland. But this guy used to smoke marijuana every day. That was like in the first
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sentence, I believe of the articles that he used to smoke all the time. But as you kind of get
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down through his arguments, and I'll post the link so you can look at it later, here was a couple
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of paragraphs that he wrote that I thought was incredibly efficient in terms of his explanation
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of why we should or shouldn't use marijuana. Here we go. Even though cannabis is never directly
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mentioned in scripture, we do have God revealed principles to guide and direct our thinking about
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its recreational use. We often get help on specific questions when we keep our eyes on the big picture.
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What is the end game for the Christian life? What should we be aiming at and all things?
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As Christians, our goal is knowing and experiencing the full and undistorted reality of the glory
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of God in our resurrected physical bodies. In your references, 1 Corinthians 15, 12 through 49,
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Philippians 3, 20 through 21, and 1 Corinthians 13 verse 12. This is our trajectory as Christians.
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This is our aim. God is glorious beyond measure and Christians seek to experience the reality of
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his glory for the sake of his glory. Sin has distorted our vision and corrupted our world.
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Ever since sin first entered the world, all of us have been born spiritually dead, unable to discern
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the true glory of God. He references Ephesians 2 verses 1 through 5, Colossians 2 verses verse 13,
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and 2 Corinthians 4, 4. When we experience the redemptive work of Christ through the Holy Spirit,
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we are awakened to the reality and beauty of God, 2 Corinthians 4, 6. But until we see him face to face,
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we still see his glory as through a glass dimly 1 Corinthians 13, 12. As redeem believers,
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we are on a journey to knowing him without obstruction. Therefore, we do not want to distort reality.
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Rather, we aim to know him as he really is. We want to see things as they really are.
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The Christian use of any kind of psychoactive substance should always align with the gospel goal
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of looking to see things clearer. We do not want our vision of reality distorted.
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Okay, so with all that being said, and I know that that's a lot there. I know about once every
21:54
Q&A podcast, I kind of go really far into one subject. But back to the original question,
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is this good for my state and my people? No, I think unequivocally, the answer to that is no.
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Now I can say when this passed, it wasn't like, you know, there wasn't whaling and
22:07
gnashing of teeth in my household. I wasn't throwing things in the art. Okay. But I really
22:11
do think there are some serious misgivings. I don't think that people that make the crazy
22:16
arguments about it being a gateway drug. And that's like non founded in any type of research. I think
22:21
that's that's increasingly unhelpful when you say things like that. But I have, I have very,
22:26
very serious misgivings about our legalization of this in our state. And this is regardless of
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what happens. You know, Mary Fallon and the Oklahoma legislature, they have this tendency
22:35
to kind of change laws, even after the state questions have been approved by the populace.
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It's not really a thing that I appreciate, even if it goes in my favor, got to be honest about that.
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But so regardless of how that happens, it's going to come eventually, like it's just going to happen
22:49
eventually. But I think for us as Christians and as Christian men, I think that the dictates that
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are put forth in the Bible and the hints that we get about things that are mind altering to the
22:59
point of excess, I think are really, really important for us to consider. When we ourselves
23:04
are considering partaking in a particular thing, and also when it comes up in the public square.
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All right, guys, I know that took a while, but let's launch into the next question here.
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If you were an MMA fighter, what would your walkout song be? Okay, that's kind of a cool question.
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Let me think. I feel like I can't narrow it down to one because I don't have any MMA fights
23:26
coming up soon. So surprise, surprise, the cats out of the bag there. But there are three songs
23:30
that kind of come to mind, like whenever you think through when you're watching, because, you know,
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I have thought about that quite a bit, like if you were walking in the cage, like, what would
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you want coming out? So the first one that comes to mind is the song The Finisher by Osleeper.
23:41
And surprise, surprise, these are probably all going to be metal songs. But the song The Finisher
23:45
by Osleeper, it's off their album, some of the morning. And the thing about this song that's so
23:49
awesome, it's kind of a concept album, the very first song of the album, it's like Satan talking
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to God, basically talking smack to God. And then, you know, the other eight tracks there in the
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middle kind of follow along that same trajectory. But then the final song is God's response to Satan.
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And it is vicious. And the end of this song, I remember the first time I heard this, it was just
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like whole Lee balls. Like, how does somebody say something like that? But here's, here's the
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quote from the end of the song. And then it goes into the final breakdown. It says, from the armories,
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the angels sing, you will see them in the suffering. From the armories, the angels sing,
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you will fear them when they lift their wings. They will sing to a world reborn. They will sing
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as I cut off your horns. And so that's an incredible, incredible song. Actually,
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I've got a big tattoo on my right arm and shoulder. That's kind of like this part of the song played
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out. It's kind of a different take on a statue that I saw in Florence. But basically, it's,
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it's God cutting off Satan's horns. And so that's a really, really cool song. And the thing is,
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it's called the finisher. And if you're going to be an MMA fighter, you hope to be finishing people.
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But if I didn't go with that one, the other two that kind of come to mind is the song
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whitewashed by August Burns Red. So August Burns Red, obviously they gave us permission to use. I
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say this every episode, they gave us permission to use their entire music library for anything
25:08
that we want. So the song whitewashed was actually in a video, one of our excursion videos that's on
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our website. So that song will be familiar, but that's off their constellations album. And that's
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probably my favorite metal intro ever. I mean, it's just such a heavy introduction to that song.
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So I really like that. And then the other song would probably be Devastator by For Today. So For
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Today is a band that's no longer together. But this is this author, one of their early albums,
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it's called Breaker. But you might recognize this hashtag that I put on Instagram, but it's
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let my name be feared at the gates of hell. The thing with For Today and a lot of their lyrical
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content, to be honest, the lyrical content of the three bands that I just mentioned,
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it's incredibly aggressive towards Satan. So so that's the thing is like, as I've said before,
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I'm not a huge worship music fan. I feel like, you know, it's kind of worshiping Jesus as if he's
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your boyfriend. I don't really like that very much because he's the Lion of Judah, not our QT
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bootsy little bunny bunny. And so like these these lyrics speak to me differently. And so it's,
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you know, whenever I suggested you listen to the impending doom album, their new album, a few,
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a few podcasts episodes ago, it's kind of that thing. It's like, you should get pumped up when
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singing about Jesus. Like you shouldn't, I mean, in my opinion, I mean, there are times, I guess
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when you could be overcome with emotion and maybe crying or something like that. But like,
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whenever I'm really worshiping God using music, it's songs like these like that that I just suggested
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to you, it just really gets me going. So those would probably be the three, but the finisher by
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O sleeper would probably be the top one if I had to pick one. Next question. When was the last time
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you forgave someone who wronged you? Okay, so that's a good question. And to be honest with you,
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I would like to say I would like to be able to pull out an exact example. But but again, you know,
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my wife and I, we have a lot of interactions with one another. And so we forgive people back and forth
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for, you know, oh, I shouldn't have said that or I shouldn't have done that or shouldn't have given
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down to and all that. But to be honest with you guys, and this is, you know, full transparency here,
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I struggle quite a bit in this area of forgiveness. But it's, it's maybe not in the way that you think
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by hearing me say it like that. So what I mean by that is there are seven billion people on this
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planet, right? And not all of them are going to like you. Even if you have one of the most
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amenable personalities and you're just so great to be around and you're super altruistic,
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there's still going to be people that are going to find something about you they don't like.
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Maybe it's your facial features. Maybe it's your clothes. Maybe it's your accent. Maybe it's
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whatever. They're going to find something to do that with with you. And so for me, I'm like,
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if someone doesn't like me, fine. There are literally seven billion other people on this planet.
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One person not liking me is not going to bother me. Like if my wife didn't like me, that'd be a
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problem. If my teammates at my gym didn't like me, that'd probably be a problem. But you know,
27:44
for the most part, I could really give a crap whether or not you like me. But on the other side
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of things as well is I'm a very loyal guy. I'm an incredibly loyal guy until you cross me.
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Until you give me reason to not trust you, right? And so this is probably where my struggle comes in
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is when someone crosses me, I'm like, all right, I take the other side out that argument. I go,
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there are seven billion other people on this planet. I don't need to have you close to me so that
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you can hurt me and disappoint me like that. So that you could, you know, basically not live up
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to the standard that I put forth for you or not to jump over that hurdle. I said incredibly low
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for you to jump over, right? And so again, just to be honest, I know that's not the most Christian
28:27
thing in the world. Obviously, we we have an entire setup with with God and the triune God that is
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based on forgiveness and salvation and really the story of the gospel. But I will just say for me
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personally, it really comes down to that to where it's just like, man, there's way too many people in
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this planet for me to worry about someone that doesn't like me or worry about somebody that's
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going to cross me like that. And so I remember even my wife saying that to somebody, because
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there was an event that we set up and this guy, you know, he just blatantly lied to my face about
28:56
not showing up. And it's kind of one of those things where it's like, I just don't have time for
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liars. I just don't really have the energy for it. And you know, my wife was talking to another buddy
29:04
of mine. And my buddy was like, Hey, it's Kyle mad about about that. And Kelsey, you know, she just
29:08
kind of said it offhand. She was just kind of like, look, Kyle's pretty straightforward. Like he will
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be the most loyal guy in the world to you until you mess with him. And then he just he's done with
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you. And he's not going to feel sad about it either. So that is something that I guess if I would ask
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for prayer, that would be something that I feel like is is something that needs to be adjusted
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on my side of things. So good question. Thanks a lot for making for challenging me on my own
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podcast. Thanks a lot, jerk. So let's move on to the next question. All right, my pastor has a
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$7 million mansion is his wealth, a fruit of the spirit, or is he going to hell? Guys, are y'all
29:41
trying to get me in trouble? We got weed, we got, you know, forgiveness. Now we got the the prosperity
29:45
gospel stuff. So I guess here's the thing. The easy answer to this is he's he's going to hell if
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he hasn't accepted the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. I mean, is that like the most PC answer I
29:57
could have given to this? Like, yeah, you know, he's he's not going to be in the afterlife with God
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if he hasn't accepted, you know, the gospel message, right? That's pretty easy. But I guess on the
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other side, the hard answer is there might be a heart problem with your pastor. And I put the
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emphasis big time on might, there might be a heart problem with your pastor. I don't know that to be
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true. Okay. But I do know that Jesus talked about money. And he talked about money a lot, like more
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than anything else in the Bible, you've probably heard that before, he talks about money. And it's
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probably has a lot to do with the fact that, you know, how humans in the human heart is attracted to
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it and what wealth does for us, right? And it, you know, normally tells us that we don't need God,
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we just need our security and our wealth. But, you know, back in Matthew 19, we see Jesus talk
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about this. And this was in verses 23 and 24, he said, and Jesus said to his disciples, truly I
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say to you only with difficulty will a rich person enter the kingdom of heaven. Again, I tell you,
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it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the
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kingdom of God. And so, so here's the deal is, I don't think having money is sinful, obviously,
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like I don't think if you're successful, that that's not a blessing from God. But when you look at
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these examples, so you got guys like Joel Osteen. So Joel Osteen, you know, you've probably seen,
31:13
you know, aerial photos of his mansion, it's a 10 million dollar plus house, right? Then you have
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guys like Steven Firdick, he's got a house that's almost $2 million. And he got busted kind of by a
31:23
local, I guess he tried to, you know, make it kind of a quiet thing. And he kind of got busted by
31:28
local news. And he kind of had a weird apology, I guess that's just his thing. The dude just doesn't
31:32
know how to apologize. But he talked about it at a sermon. And he basically said, I'm sorry that you
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had to have those conversations this week talking to his patrons. And he said that the house was a
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gift from God. And you know, the thing was, is he kind of changed his tone. At the beginning,
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he said it was an attack like people were attacking him and attacking the gift God gave him. But then,
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you know, he kind of changed his tone after he probably talked to his lawyer and his PR people
31:54
or something like that. But kind of in my opinion, with with pastors like that, pastors of any kind,
31:59
even if you're you're not on the mega church side of things, if you're in a tax exempt situation,
32:03
why not share all of your financials? Like all of them. Like if your pastor shouldn't your flock
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know if you have a housing allowance, shouldn't they know what your salary is? Like the money that
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you make off your books that you're writing while on the clock at the church, you know, what your
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speaker fees are. Do you man do you demand that you fly private or fly first class or all those
32:23
things? Like that's not so that we can judge you. But it's like, Hey, bro, like we're paying your
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salary here. Like if you work for the state, like right now I could go on and look at every salary
32:33
for state employees in the state of Oklahoma. Because like my tax dollars directly paid for
32:38
them to have their jobs, right? You know, I used to work at a university and it's like, you know,
32:42
you look at what other people are making. There's there's no secrets there. So I don't really
32:45
understand why a pastor would have that. But but here's the other thing that I think is the big
32:50
overarching thing about this question is a one big reason why certain believers don't listen to
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preachers is because of money, right? Either you know, maybe they have a lot of it or they're always
33:01
asking for it. That's that's a lot of reasons why believers don't listen. But on the other side of
33:06
things is a lot of people that are unbelievers, they look at these pastors, they look at these
33:12
houses and they look at these jets and these Bentley's and all these things. And it just doesn't
33:15
seem right. It doesn't feel right. And so your pastor might not be Benny Hinn. He might not be
33:20
ripping people off. But that's how he's viewed. He's lumped into that category. And it just gives
33:25
unbelievers and atheists, uh, and you know, moral relativists, it gives them even more
33:29
ammunition to be like, well, look at that guy. So again, don't don't mistake me and hear me say
33:33
that if your pastor has a big house that he's going to hell, I think I mean, none of us can make
33:36
that call. But here's the big warning, I guess that I would give to you is that if your pastor is
33:42
preaching prosperity gospel messages, right? And has a mansion and is living a lavish life,
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you really need to be where in that situation, beware, because there's something funky going on
33:56
there, because I don't know a whole lot of prosperity gospel pastors that aren't rolling in it, right?
34:02
So it's like, you know, if God, you know, just open up the sky and, you know, and then these,
34:06
these positive vibes are going to rain down dollar bills on you and all those different
34:10
things, all these prosperity gospel people, they got money. They got a lot of it. So, so again,
34:15
I think it is completely inappropriate for us to take the judgment seat of, well, this guy's
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clearly going to hell just kind of to go back to the original question. But at the end of the day,
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I think you should really be aware of anyone that's, you know, sporting a message like that.
34:28
All right, next question. Should collegiate athletes be paid? Okay. So here's the thing is,
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I've had a pretty well formulated opinion on this for a long time, and it has not shifted in any
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way, shape or form. No, college athletes should not be paid. So here's the deal is, I know that
34:45
not every college athlete is on scholarship, but a lot of college athletes are on scholarships. So,
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they're already being paid by the school. So let's let's just for the sake of this. Let's talk about
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people that are on full scholarship. So if you have a basketball scholarship to Duke,
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or football scholarships, Texas A&M or something like that, your school, and for a lot of these
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kids, it's out of state or private or something like that, it's paid for, right? It's taken care
35:09
of. And so at the end of the day, it is your choice if you want to play a college sport, right?
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No one's making you play a college sport. So you're a, you're a stud athlete. You're a great football
35:22
player in high school, and you get offered a scholarship or an invitation to walk on a football
35:27
program at a college. You get to choose whether or not to do that. No one is forcing you. And people
35:32
be like, Oh, well, some of these kids don't have options and blah, that's not what we're talking
35:35
about. We're talking about whether or not we should pay these kids, right? But it's their choice.
35:39
They don't have to play sports at all. They don't have to go to that school. They could go to a
35:42
different school. They don't have to play that particular sport. They could play a different sport.
35:46
So the thing is, it's all about choice here. So if you go to college, you know what the setup is.
35:51
Like nothing drives me more insane than when people sign a contract like in the NFL, they sign a
35:56
contract and they put their name down to it and then they have a good season or two and then they
36:00
want to hold out. It's like you sign the contract. Like there's just as many people that sign
36:05
contracts and it's bad for the team. You just so happen to sign a contract that's good for the
36:09
team. So what's your job? Get up and do your job. But the thing about it that I don't feel like many
36:13
people, you know, a lot of people that say that college athletes should be paid. These are people
36:17
that, you know, have only worked in the public sector or maybe they've just been pundits for
36:20
forever. They've never really had to do like a real private sector job before. But you just have
36:25
to ask questions like this because most people don't don't really have a clue. So let's look at
36:30
probably let's look at Tim Tebow. Okay, Tim Tebow is probably the most famous collegiate athlete of
36:37
all time of any sport. I think that's a that's pretty easy. Even he's not the top one. He's in the top
36:40
10. So let's just use Tim Tebow. If we were paying college athletes while Tim Tebow was the quarterback
36:45
of Florida, would we be paying Tim Tebow the same as the backup catcher on the softball team?
36:52
Do they get the same amount of money? Should we pay Tim Tebow the same as a quarterback of like a
36:59
D three school? Does he get the same amount of money? You know, how do we equal this out? Because
37:04
because here's the thing is you can't, you know, especially in this day and age, what if you paid
37:08
female basketball players differently than you pay the male basketball players? Like how are you
37:13
going to make this equal? Right? There's there's no extra title nine that you could add into there
37:17
that's going to take care of all those issues. But but here's the thing that a lot of people don't
37:20
realize is that most athletic departments in the country. And yes, I mean, most like overwhelmingly
37:27
most, almost all of them are operating in the negative. Almost all of them are operating in the
37:32
red. And so basically what you would be asking these people to do is they're already operating in
37:37
the red. They're getting taken care of by all these other different things on campus student fees
37:41
or tuition or something like that. They're being taken care of. And now you're going to ask them
37:44
to pay these pay these athletes. Like with what money? This is like the most Bernie Sanders thing
37:50
in the world. It's like, Oh, we're going to pay for it. How? Don't worry about it. Like it's just
37:53
kind of doesn't make any sense. For the most part, the only sports that make money at most college
37:59
campuses is football and men's basketball. That's it. And in some places, neither of those teams
38:05
make money. So literally nothing makes money. Like you'll have, you know, Oklahoma State wrestling,
38:08
they probably make money, you know, Oregon State baseball, they probably make money. But for the
38:13
most part, these sports don't make any money. So the question I would ask to these people that,
38:17
you know, they should be paid is with what? And you know, they always want to talk about how much
38:22
these schools make for their bowl games and how much the coaches are paid and all these different
38:26
things. But at the end of the day, that's their job. And if somebody wants to pay them extra from
38:31
the coffers of the university, let them that's fine. That's totally fine. Because these kids,
38:36
again, they have a choice. They don't have to play these sports. And so if you've chosen to play
38:41
these sports, and if you can't have a job outside of it, because of your, you know,
38:45
requirements from the football team or the basketball team or the badminton team or whatever team
38:48
you're on, it just is what it is. If you don't like it, you can quit. And then you can go into debt,
38:53
like just about every other, you know, student out there, they're going into debt in order to
38:58
go to college. Like in a lot of these situations, you are paid for to go to college. I don't really
39:02
get the funk, right? So a little bit on the on a high horse there, but I've literally never heard
39:06
a compelling argument on the other side of things is just people basically talking into the ether.
39:10
So all right, next question. Does God send people who haven't heard about him to help?
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How should we respond to people who have objections about help? Okay, so a couple of different questions
39:20
there. So let's look at the first part. So the thing that I know about God that I'm very,
39:25
very comfortable with about God is that his judgment will be fair. I mean, we see that all
39:30
over the place in scripture, and I'll pull out a couple. So Psalm 96, 13 says this,
39:34
for he comes to judge the earth, he will judge the world in righteousness and the people in his
39:39
faithfulness. And Paul kind of corroborates this later when he's talking in Acts, this is Acts 1731,
39:44
because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has
39:50
appointed. And of this, he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead, obviously
39:54
talking about Jesus. So that's the thing that I that I know to be true here is that God is going
39:59
to judge fairly. And the thing is, is his definition of fair is not necessarily going to align with
40:04
your definition of fair. So let's go in to talk a little bit more about that. I want to kind of
40:09
do another quote from Paul. And this is Paul talking in Romans, and this is Romans two,
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and I'm going to do verses 11 through 16. Because I think this will be helpful for us when it comes
40:18
to people that maybe have never heard the message of Jesus, and you're wondering, you know, where
40:22
these people are going to go. So Romans two, starting in verse 11 through 16. For God shows no
40:27
partiality for all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law. And all who
40:32
have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. It's very important there. For it is not the
40:38
hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.
40:43
For when Gentiles who do not have the law by nature do not what do or sorry by nature do what the
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law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that
40:56
the work of the law is written on their hearts while they're conscious is also bears witness,
41:01
and they're conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when according to my gospel
41:07
God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. So that's really important there. Sorry,
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little clunky in the reading, but yeah, again, you know, Romans two 11 through 16, I think is
41:15
really important. And there's a lot of people that have given their summaries of kind of what that
41:19
means, but probably the most succinct way that I saw it summed up for our use and for our digestion
41:25
was by pastor Stephen Jay Cole. And so he talks about that right here. And again, I'll provide
41:30
the link to this later. So you can read all of it. But I just want to read this section to you right
41:33
here. And here's a section in Romans two 12 through 16, Paul's establishing the point of verse 11.
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For there is no partiality with God. God will judge everyone with perfect justice. Paul is
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anticipating a Jewish objection. But surely God will treat us more favorably than pagan Gentiles.
41:53
We know God's ways are as revealed in his law, but they don't. Or perhaps a Gentile would object.
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It's not fair for God to judge me for disobeying a standard that I knew nothing about. I've done
42:03
the best that I could with what I knew. God won't judge me. Will he? So Paul shows God with impartiality.
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God will impartially judge everyone for sinning against the light against the light that they
42:13
were given. His line of reasoning goes like this, the Gentiles send without the law. So he will
42:19
perish without the law. The Jews send under the law. And so he will be judged by the law. And that's
42:25
verses or book two or chapter two, verse 12. In other words, the verse as verse six stated,
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God will render to each person according to his deeds, hearing the law isn't good enough.
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You must be a doer of the law. And that's two 13. Although the Gentiles did not have God's law,
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they all have an inner sense of right and wrong. That's first chapter two verse 14.
42:47
And although occasionally they may do what is right, they all have sinned against what they know
42:52
to be right. Their consciousnesses and thoughts convict them of their guilt. And that's two 15.
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But whatever they think, or they may think of themselves, the day is coming when God will judge
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not only outward deeds, but also the secrets of men through Jesus Christ. In accordance with the
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gospel, that's two 16 to sum up Paul is saying this, since God will impartially judge everyone
43:13
for sinning against what they know to be right, everyone is guilty. And thus everyone needs the
43:18
gospel. So I hope that's helpful to the guy that put in this question. I really appreciate that.
43:24
I hope that's helpful. So again, this is a fair God, but this is a just God. There has to be
43:29
judgment. And he's leaving it open there to where you're going to be judged under what you know.
43:33
So I, you know, I've thought about this before it's kept me up and I will, what about these
43:36
unreached people groups? You know, these tribal peoples that literally don't even know the first,
43:41
you know, there were any words of English, much less the story of the gospel in any language,
43:46
including their own. But I think this speaks to that. And so to the second part of your question,
43:50
the second part of your question, just remind listeners is how should we respond to people who
43:54
have objections about hell? And this was pretty easy. Is your opinion about hell changes nothing
43:59
about the reality of hell? So people are like, well, I don't really think a good guy to send
44:03
somebody in the hell. Like that's that doesn't matter. Like your opinion really doesn't matter.
44:07
So think about this, that, you know, Rob Bell. So that's that's a guy who's pretty much a pagan.
44:13
Now he's like Oprah's favorite person on the planet. But he wrote a book called Love Wins,
44:17
which was basically talking about hell couldn't possibly exist if God was of love. And I love
44:21
that Francis Chan wrote an entire book called Erasing Hell, just responding to this book.
44:26
But again, just because hell makes you uncomfortable, just because you don't understand
44:31
exactly how hell works or how it reflects you or anything like that. It really doesn't change
44:36
the reality of it. So my encouragement to this listener would be if you're in a situation where
44:40
people are talking about hell and they're just like, man, I don't really like that. And that
44:43
doesn't really make sense to me. It really doesn't matter. It's kind of one of the same thing. Like
44:46
if someone's like, well, I don't believe in gravity, it's like, well, jump off of that building and
44:50
you're going to hit the ground. Like your belief in gravity changes nothing. All right, next question.
44:56
Who were your favorite athletes any sport when you were growing up? Okay, so let's look at baseball
45:02
first since that's the greatest sport ever invented. When I was a little kid, my favorite athlete,
45:06
my favorite player was Mark Maguire. And I wish it wasn't because the guy's like a dirty rotten
45:12
cheater and liar. And I wish I didn't buy all his baseball cards and spend all my summer money on
45:16
his rookie card. But I did. So that was my dude, even though I can't stand to even see the guy now.
45:21
But I also really liked Ken Griffey, Jr, Randy Johnson, Pudge Rodriguez. So the first major league
45:27
game I went to was a Rangers game. And so that was like the Pudge Rodriguez, Juan Gonzalez era
45:32
of the Texas Rangers. So I really liked them. And I thought Pudge, he was just great on defense.
45:36
You know, Randy Johnson, one of the greatest pitchers ever, maybe the greatest left handed
45:40
pitcher ever. And then current King Griffey, Jr, I just I don't really know how you have a
45:44
sweeter swing than that. I think in modern day, I think guys like Corey Seager and Cody Bellinger,
45:49
they happen to be on the same team, but they have just incredibly beautiful left handed swings.
45:53
But nothing is better than Griffey. With basketball, I mean, straight up Michael Jordan. I mean,
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I grew up in the era where Michael Jordan was literally wrecking fools. And so just destroying
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the Sonics and destroying the jazz and all that. And so for a little stretch there, I was really,
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I really liked to keep a lot of one when I was a little kid. But I mean, when I was a little kid,
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it was just being mesmerized by Michael Jordan. I remember telling my grandma, you know, she was
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asking me what I wanted for Christmas. And I was like, you know, I want a Chicago Bulls hat.
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And it was like crazy to me that anybody would be a fan of any other team. I was like,
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why would anyone root for anybody else? The Bulls are clearly the best. So
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MJ all the way on that. In the NFL, I really liked Barry Sanders and Brett Favre. So they were,
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I think they won Cohen VPs even one year, but I just love Barry Sanders style. He played for an
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awful team behind a terrible offensive line. And every time he got to the end zone, just like,
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yeah, here's the ball. So I love that about him, you know, Brett Favre, just the gunslinger style,
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just going crazy. I had a buddy who played for the New York Jets. And so I actually went up there
46:49
and watched the game when Brett Favre played for the Jets that one year, which was awesome.
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I guess I also liked Kerry Collins. This is super, super random. But when I was a little,
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little kid, I was like eight or nine or something like that, the Carolina Panthers was an expansion
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franchise that came in with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And so like Kerry Collins came out of Penn State,
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I was like, that's going to be my dude. And I started, you know, collecting all of his cards.
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And like that was going to be my team. And I got, you know, a panther starter jacket that
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year for Christmas. And I was like, this is awesome. And I even remember, I don't know if you all
47:18
remember this, but Kerry Collins, I quit football. This was before he made his comeback and he played
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for like the Giants or something like that. But he like quit football to like go to Europe and like
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find himself. And I remember being a little kid and I was just like crying and my dad's trying to
47:30
like explain to me that, you know, he's just, he wanted to make this decision for himself. And I was
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like, what's in Europe? Dad, like what's in Europe? What is he looking for? So that's kind of funny.
47:38
But yeah, Kerry Collins was apparently a weirdo. But you know, that was, he was one of my dudes
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growing up, I guess other sports. I liked Ryan Nyquist. He was a BMX guy. So he was a dirt BMX
47:49
guy. So everyone was like a Dave Miro person. So I was like, I'm gonna be a Ryan Nyquist guy.
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Michael Johnson, I guess if you're thinking Olympics, you know, he had the gold shoes and he was going
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all crazy back in the day, running sprint. So that was cool. Dominic Muchiano, I don't know if y'all
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know that name, but she was on that like dream team, 1996 Olympic team in Atlanta where Kerry
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struggled like broke her leg and, you know, on the final vault or whatever. But I thought Dominic
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Muchiano was like the cutest thing in the world. I had a mad crush on her when I was a little kid.
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That was like, I guess my first celebrity crush that wasn't Kelly Kapalski or something like that.
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So yeah, those would be some of the athletes. And there's probably some others here or there,
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you know, there's Tony Hawk and, and, and things like that. And just some random sports here or
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there, you know, Wayne Gretzky, Bret Ho, but those were the athletes that I followed the most.
48:32
All right, next question. How do we properly use accountability with other men? And how do we
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keep accountability from spilling over into inappropriate judgment? So I think this is a really important
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question here. The thing about it is the guy who asked me this question is a guy that actually
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spent quite a bit of time with training. And this is a group of guys that get together on Sunday
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nights and we get together and we were normally going over a book, we have some time for discussion,
48:56
and then we train some jujitsu and do some other training. And, you know, we had a guy
49:01
share in the group this week about something that happened. One of the guys in the group,
49:05
his wife had a miscarriage. And, you know, it was kind of one of those things where it was just kind
49:09
of it was a really, really important moment for our group. Because that's kind of an important
49:15
thing to share. But it's kind of like, how do you share that? And what do you say? And, and it just
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opened the door to a lot of very good conversations in the group. And, but the thing is, is like,
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there should be accountability in groups like that, because most guys don't have accountability
49:28
when they spend all their time with themselves, you're basically only accountable to yourself and
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maybe to your, to your wife, depending on your relationship. But, you know, the thing I like to
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talk about all the time is like the atheist's favorite scripture is judge not lest you be judged,
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right? They're like, you know, Christians are just always out there judging people and all
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those different things. But, you know, I want to talk a little bit more specifically about that,
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because you know, that comes from Matthew seven. So that's Matthew seven, one through five. And
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this is Jesus talking, but I'll go ahead and read that here. Judge not that you be not judged.
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For with judgment, you pronounce you will be judged. And with the measure you use, it will be measured
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to you. Why do you see the speck in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own
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eye? Or how can you say to your brother, let me take the speck out of your eye when there is a log
50:13
in your own eye, you hypocrite, first take the log, the log out of your own eye, and then you
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will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. So the thing that's important there
50:24
is the very last part there of verse five, which is to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
50:29
So this is actually telling you, this is Jesus telling you that you need to take the speck
50:34
out of your brother's eye. But he's just basically telling you from for alignment purposes, you need
50:39
to worry about yourself first, get your self right before you start messing with anybody else. But
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he is telling you that you need to help other people out through judgment. And then Paul even
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talked about this with the Romans with the Roman Christians, and he basically told them not to
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judge and this was in Romans 14 verse 13. Therefore, let us not pass judgment on one another any
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longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of the brother.
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But the thing about this is in when Paul's letter to the Corinthian Christians, he basically said that
51:08
they must judge simple believers and let God deal with the people that are non believers, right?
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So you judge the people that are inside of your believer community and let God deal with the
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people that are outside of that. And so this was talked about in 1 Corinthians 5 verses 12 and 13.
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For what have I have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are
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to judge? God judges those outside purge the evil person from among you. And so the thing is with
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accountability is what you get from these verses from these two by Paul and one recorded about
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Jesus talking is we are to judge people that are inside the church. We certainly are to do that.
51:47
What you're not to do is to take the judgment seat of God, right? You're not to be like,
51:51
well, I decree that this is good behavior and bad behavior and you're going to hell for that
51:54
or I'm punishing you for that. That's obviously not your right and that's not your place, right?
51:58
So the thing that I think is important here is when you're in any type of accountability
52:03
community, the first rule that I guess I would look at is that if the person is not willing to
52:08
be held accountable, you can't hold them accountable. So if someone's, you know, fat now to shape,
52:13
you can't just go up to him and be like, hey, you're Christian, you need to eat less and move more.
52:17
Like you shouldn't expect them to be like, yeah, you know what, you're right. And again,
52:22
I'm the type of guy that would have that conversation with somebody. But this person has to trust you.
52:26
It's a little bit different if that person comes up to you and says, man, I let myself go. I'm 100
52:30
pounds overweight and I got a kid on the way. And you know, I don't want them to ever see me as fat
52:35
and all those different things. And I want to be around long. And at that point, it's for you to
52:39
kind of step in and help them. But also it is imperative upon you probably to broach that subject
52:43
with them at some point, even if they haven't come up to you. So when we're thinking about
52:46
accountability purposes, in my group of guys, I'm specifically talking about here, if I see that
52:51
somebody, you know, maybe cheating on their wife, maybe they're looking at pornography, maybe they're
52:54
not using language as glorifying of God, maybe they're not taking care of their bodies, maybe they're
52:59
not doing things in the public sphere that is going to help them spread the gospel, any of those
53:04
things and make up a myriad of things, it is required of me to help that person through judgment
53:09
and accountability. To have that conversation, to have that awkward conversation, to put some
53:15
chips in the center and risk some relational equity in order to maybe set them on a better path.
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And I have to be ready to receive that as well. So if I'm doing any of those things I just listed
53:26
or something else outside of that, that is simple. And somebody comes to me about it, I got to be
53:30
able to lay my pride aside for a second, be like, you know what, brother, you're right. I do need
53:34
to adjust that. You know, I was talking rudely on the phone to my wife just then when you overheard
53:39
that. And that's not good for me to do. And I'm really glad that you reached out and told me.
53:43
Now I would like to say that every time that's happened for me that it just, you know, worked out
53:46
and I was like, yeah, cool, you know, thanks, thanks for repuking me. But you know, I have my my
53:51
moments when it comes to to being humble and listening to those types of things. But that
53:55
doesn't change the setup about what we're supposed to do. We are called to keep our brothers in line,
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to use judgment. But but the important thing here is if somebody is not a believer and they're not
54:06
in your sphere of influence, you can't judge them based on based on what we're doing. That's God's
54:10
job. So you would never go into the house of Muslims and judge them according to what's taught
54:15
in the Bible. That's not your place. It's your place to have that conversation. It's your place to
54:21
share the gospel with them. But you can't take the judgment seat there. Like, and you can't look at
54:26
their diet or their customs and say, well, that doesn't really jive with what I do. You wouldn't
54:29
appreciate if they did that to you. If a if a Sikh or a Hindu or someone like that came into your house
54:34
and tried to change things around on you, because you don't align with that worldview, our God is
54:39
going to deal with them. It's our job to share the gospel. It's our job to get them to understand
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who Jesus is and who he can be for them. Next question. Is the UFC becoming too much like the
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WWE? And specifically, he's talking about the Daniel Cormier and Brock Lesnar Scuffle. So
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y'all probably saw this a few weeks ago, but UFC 226. That was a huge super fight. You know, we
55:01
we are kind of in the era of super fights now, but this was definitely a super fight.
55:05
Steepay Miyochich is the heavyweight champion of the world. He's the greatest heavyweight
55:09
in the history of mixed martial arts. And Daniel Cormier, who's one of the greatest fighters ever,
55:14
and there was the light heavyweight champion, the 205 champion was going to go up to heavyweight
55:18
to challenge tpei Miyochas for his belt. So obviously, by now, y'all know what happened.
55:22
DC knocked out steepay in the first round. It was really incredible. He
55:26
clinched up and then through through a short right hand dropped him and then finished him on the ground.
55:30
It was incredible. But before the fight, you saw that Brock Lesnar was there and it's like,
55:34
well, Brock Lesnar doesn't normally show up someplace unless he's going to be, you know,
55:38
picking a fight of some kind. And so, you know, afterwards, Joe Rogan's talking to DC and then
55:42
DC takes the mic and then he calls out Brock Lesnar and Brock Lesnar comes in the cage and
55:47
he pushes DC and everyone smiling and Joe Rogan doesn't know what to do. And, you know, the people
55:51
that are there doing security, they don't really know what to do. And, you know, it was kind of,
55:55
it was kind of felt WWE like and Brock Lesnar got on the mic and, you know, said a bunch of bad
56:00
words and called out this and called out that and like punched the camera and did all this crazy stuff.
56:04
Here's the thing. The UFC is not becoming too much like the WWE because for every one thing,
56:10
there's been like that. There's been a billion other things that aren't anything like that at all.
56:14
So there, there is kind of this thing where the guys that talk trash do get more opportunities.
56:20
So you think of a guy like Connor who has backed it up or you think like a guy like Chelsea Sonnen
56:24
or Kobe Covington or guys like that that talk trash. These guys may have gotten opportunities
56:28
that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise if they are quiet. But I don't think that meant
56:32
necessarily makes it like WWE because in WWE, that's fake, right? You know, these are athletes
56:37
that are actually taking bumps and doing things like that. But there's no no wonder in the back
56:42
about what the outcome is going to be. They know before they walk out there how this is going to go,
56:46
right? But they don't have that in MMA. So you can talk all you want and you can do all those
56:51
things and you can have your, you can have your lines ready to go and ready to spit out. But at
56:54
the end of the day, they locked the cage and it's you two in a referee and it's a real fight.
56:59
There's no whispering in each other's ears like, all right, go down here. I'm going to throw you
57:02
off the top turnbuckle or something like that. So no, I don't think this is becoming too much
57:06
like the WWE. I can say for me, I wasn't terribly bothered by all that stuff that happened afterwards.
57:12
It was ridiculous. At the end of the day, Brock Lesnar Daniel Cormier should not be much of a fight.
57:16
DC should be able to handle Brock Lesnar incredibly easily. Brock is not going to out wrestle DC
57:21
and Brock does not like getting punched in the face. So that is not exactly bold well for their
57:25
future setup. But yeah, so still a huge fan of the UFC that WWE nonsense with Brock Lesnar not
57:30
was standing. So next question. What are your thoughts on the Re voice conference? Okay, so to be honest,
57:36
when I got this question, I had no idea what what the Re voice conference was. But what I did is I
57:41
went and looked it up and this is happening. Apparently this year in St. Louis, or maybe it
57:44
already happened. I'm not exactly sure. But this was the tagline for this conference. It was supporting,
57:49
encouraging and empowering gay, lesbian, same sex attracted and other LGBT Christians so that
57:56
they can flourish while observing the historic Christian doctrine of marriage and sexuality.
58:01
Okay, so it was kind of one of the things I was like, all right, well, I guess there's a
58:04
conference full of people that are going to go and do that. So first of all, I guess I would
58:08
refer all of you back to episode 25 of this podcast. And it was a podcast I did called Why I Stopped
58:14
Using the word [inaudible]. And so I think that was a very important podcast, especially for a lot
58:18
of guys like myself and a lot of my listeners out there that used to use that word regularly.
58:23
And you know, you know, busting each other's balls type settings or in an athletic setting or
58:27
something like that. So here's the thing when I first heard that this conference was for LGBT
58:33
Christians, I immediately, you know, my antenna went up and I was like, Oh, okay, what are we doing
58:37
here? Are we going to be celebrating this? Or are we going to be absolving them of some sort
58:42
of sin? Like what are we doing? But I guess the thing that was encouraging to me a couple things
58:45
were encouraging was kind of the last part of the tagline when it said, you know, while observing
58:51
the historic Christian doctrine of marriage and sexuality. So it doesn't seem like they're
58:55
going to be rewriting scripture there. And here's the other thing is the keynote is being delivered
59:00
by Wesley Hill. And so Wesley Hill was kind of the main person about, you know, episode 25 of this
59:05
podcast. It was his book washed and waiting. That was kind of the the center point of that whole
59:10
podcast. Right. And so and his views were obviously that this is a celibate Christian theologian who
59:16
for the rest of his life is going to go to bed alone. And he's not going to live out his his gay
59:20
sexual desires for the sake of the gospel of Christ. And so I think that was very important.
59:25
And there should be a place for people like this that are same sex attracted to where they're not
59:30
just being told that no, you know, God just loves you as you are, you don't need to change. Because if
59:33
that was true, we don't need Jesus. Right. But the thing is, is they might be towing the line of heresy.
59:40
You know, if this event ends up celebrating sinfulness, but from for all intents and purposes and from
59:44
the things that I've seen having not gone to the conference and having not heard the speeches,
59:48
I don't even know if it has happened yet. I didn't look at the exact dates. But from where I'm sitting,
59:52
I think it's going to be all right. But I will say this, there was a podcast I listened to recently
59:57
and shout out to my boy CJ that's down at Dallas Theological Seminary. He sent me this podcast called
1:00:02
cross politic. So CR O S S P O L I T I C so cross politic. And you can search for it on Apple iTunes
1:00:10
or Google Play. And it's cross politics show and podcasts. And there's like a black and white logo.
1:00:16
And just started listening to it literally like a week ago. So I've only listened to a couple of
1:00:20
different episodes, but they did an episode back on, let me see when this was released,
1:00:24
it was on July 15th. And it's called family meeting with Greg Johnson, pastor of Memorial
1:00:29
Presbyterian Church and host church of re voice dot us. And so the thing that was interesting is,
1:00:36
again, I haven't attended the conference. I haven't heard any of the keynotes. I don't know what's
1:00:41
being said. But the three hosts of the show really lit into this pastor. And I can't say that I
1:00:47
disagree with a lot of their arguments. And to be honest, it's made me kind of rethink my position
1:00:53
on some of this. So I don't necessarily regret some of the things from podcast 25. But it did
1:00:59
kind of open up a different some different viewpoints on that. Like where exactly Wesley Hills coming
1:01:04
from or people that are like him. And so again, I don't think I've I've changed my philosophy or
1:01:10
standpoint wholesale. But these guys brought up a lot of really, really good points. And again,
1:01:14
I have not listened to this podcast for for very long. So if they've said crazy things in the past,
1:01:18
this is not endorsement of everything that they've ever said. But I will say that these guys would
1:01:23
not let this pastor off the hook when he was trying to do this Christianese or liberalese or just
1:01:28
basically making up bullcrap. They wouldn't let him off the hook, which I really, really appreciate.
1:01:33
And I've had conversations with guys that are in the ministry space in the podcast space.
1:01:38
And they'll have people that are on and they'll be talking about this subject. And they let
1:01:42
them off the hook. They just let them say bullcrap. And there's like, Oh, this should be okay. And
1:01:46
I'm like, no, like you got to you got to keep going and you got to drive some things home. So
1:01:50
I would encourage every single one of you to listen to that. So again, go to the cross politics show
1:01:55
and podcast. And let's see if it's got an episode number just one sec. Yeah, so it's just the July
1:02:01
15th episode. So it should be one of the very recent ones on there. So would highly, highly
1:02:06
suggest that you listen to that. So again, listen to my podcast 25 on this on this and then listen
1:02:11
to that interview that they did with him. And it should give you at least a basic overview of what
1:02:15
to expect. Next question, what is what is the joy you find in drinking whiskey? Okay, so this is
1:02:22
from a good buddy of mine who actually will have whiskey with me from time to time. So
1:02:26
serious thing, kind of like I told you early in the podcast, I didn't have my first drink
1:02:29
of anything until I was 20. And it was when I was overseas in Ireland, and it was legal there. And
1:02:34
so I had one drink. And the thing is, alcohol has never been a big part of my life. Like even now,
1:02:39
I may have, you know, three or four whiskeys on in one sitting and then I have another whiskey for
1:02:45
two months, or I may have one whiskey and then I have a whiskey for a few weeks. Like, it's just
1:02:49
not a huge part of my life. I don't have to have whiskey every day. But at the end of the day,
1:02:53
like I've never enjoyed beer, I've had three or four beers my entire life. And I thought they all
1:02:57
tasted terrible. And for a guy that doesn't really drink his calories anyway, I don't drink soda,
1:03:01
I don't drink coffee, I don't do any of those things. And you know, it makes sense that I wouldn't like
1:03:05
whiskey and or wouldn't like beer. But I have always been a fan of whiskey. So even at my bachelor
1:03:11
party, that was the very first time I ever had whiskey, had a buddy bring a bottle of wild turkey,
1:03:14
which is not an effectively, it's not a very good whiskey. But he brought it and I drank it right
1:03:19
out of the bottle and it just, you know, settled right through into my stomach, right through my
1:03:22
palate, there was no, you know, kicking the ground or doing anything crazy like that. So it just,
1:03:27
it just agreed with my palate. And since then, you know, it's kind of been a hobby of mine.
1:03:32
And I've had some incredible, incredible whiskeys. I've had 50 year old scotch. I've had 40 year old
1:03:37
scotch. I've had a lot of rare burbins and things like that. And so I've got some good friends that,
1:03:42
you know, I've got one friend in particular that his whiskey collection is worth well over
1:03:46
$5 million. He's one of the largest private collectors of whiskey on the planet. And so,
1:03:50
and he's kind of taken a liken to my style and my in my taste. And so it's been a really cool journey
1:03:55
that I get to share with people. And I get to share with a lot of Christians as well. I've helped
1:03:59
some guys kind of worked their way from crown honey or honey crown up to some some better burbins
1:04:05
and things like that. And the thing about it is, and I know for some of you, especially if you
1:04:09
have a more conservative background, like your your ears are perking up here, like what am I
1:04:12
going to be talking about? But here's the thing is Jesus's first miracle was turning water into
1:04:16
wine. There's plenty of scripture in support of alcohol, but never the abuse of it. You'll never
1:04:21
you'd be able to read a scripture and think that God is giving us this so that we can abuse it.
1:04:26
Kind of same thing going back to the marijuana example we talked about the very beginning of
1:04:30
this podcast. But I really do enjoy drinking whiskey. And I've had people ask me this before,
1:04:34
so I guess I'll get into it. Like kind of what my favorite bourbon is and what my favorite
1:04:39
scotch is. And so the best bourbon I've ever had was I had Pappy Van Winkle 23. And that is just
1:04:46
an incredible, incredible bourbon. So if you know anything about that, it's an incredibly rare
1:04:50
family of burbins. But the best whiskey that has ever been, you know, past my lips and into my
1:04:56
stomach was logovolin 25. And so if you know anything about logovolin, most of you probably
1:05:02
had logovolin 16. So if you're a Parks and Rec fan, that's Ron Swanson's drink of choice. He drinks
1:05:06
that several times throughout the show. And you know, roll out logovolin. They have a logovolin 8
1:05:11
and a 12. But one of my buddies had a logovolin 25. And this is, you know, very expensive bottle
1:05:16
scotch. And it's incredibly rare. But it was just fantastic. Of all the scotch regions, there's
1:05:23
Highland, lowland, space side, Campbelltown and Ila. I'm an Ila fan. That's incredibly
1:05:27
peaty, smoky scotches. And that's what logovolin is, you know, LaFroy guard beg those types. But
1:05:33
it was just an incredible, incredible whiskey. So if you ever get an opportunity to have any of
1:05:37
the puppies, definitely partake. But also if you can see a logovolin 25 anywhere, you should definitely
1:05:41
grab that. All right, next question. What's the most important role for the man of the house?
1:05:46
So I guess I kind of have a twofold answer here. And I think the important roles for a man is to be
1:05:52
number one protector and also to be model. And I don't mean like, you know, runway model, but
1:05:58
they should be a protector and model. So on the protector side, you should be able to physically
1:06:03
financially and mentally protect your family. You should be able to to stand in front of a
1:06:07
stand in the brink with your wife and take care of her in those ways to be able to physically
1:06:11
protect your family. You should be able to be able to provide provide for them and have the
1:06:16
mental capacity to stand up for them mentally. But also you need to model what it is to be a man
1:06:22
and again, we talk about that all time. That's a guy that cultivates spiritual, mental and physical
1:06:26
resilience daily. And so in terms of the role for a man in the house, if you're protecting and
1:06:31
modeling for them and helping them in those areas, I think you'll be squared away. Next question.
1:06:35
You've smashed all your workouts for the week. You have eaten clean every meal. It is now time
1:06:40
for your cheat meal. And your wife says, you pick, babe, what are you having? Okay, so
1:06:45
if I'm doing a cheat meal, I'm going crazy. And so the the restaurant where I go the most crazy is
1:06:50
here in in Oklahoma City, it's called Cajun King. So it is a Cajun buffet place, which automatically
1:06:56
you're like, that sounds gross. But here's the deal is the family from what I understand. This is
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what I've been told. This family was displaced by Hurricane Katrina. And so this is like a legit
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Cajun Creole like group of people and they brought their restaurant and their recipes here in Oklahoma
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City. And it is some of the best, the best jambalaya for chicken, catfish that I've ever had like
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home style cook and soul food, like that kind of that's like my favorite type of food. And I will
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just eat as much of it as possible. And so there was one time when I ate their Cajun King, this was
1:07:28
very gluttonous of me. So you know, please judge harshly. But I literally got 100 200 feet out of
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the parking lot and I had to pull over. And I said, babe, you're gonna have to drive home,
1:07:38
because I'm gonna have to sit in the passenger seat and just think about not throwing up because
1:07:42
that's like exactly how much food I stuffed in. But here's the other thing with me, whenever I eat
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crazy meals, I feel like I have two stomachs, like I can be completely stuffed from the entrees and
1:07:51
everything. And then somebody offers up dessert and I'm like, yeah, I can kind of do that. So if
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I'm going crazy, I'm gonna hit up Cajun King, eat three or four plates of food. And then I'm probably
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gonna hit up something like banana pudding or milkshake or ice cream of some kind. So banana
1:08:04
pudding is probably my favorite dessert on the planet. I love my wife's banana pudding. It's
1:08:07
kind of their family recipe. So that would probably be what I would do for my cheat meal. Just and
1:08:12
one time I tried to calculate the calories, but I got about a quarter of the way in and got the
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press. So I was like, I don't even care. If I'm gonna eat there, I'm going crazy. All right, next
1:08:19
question. How many hours per week should a man devote to his vocation? So this is an important
1:08:24
question that comes from a buddy of mine. He's actually a lawyer. But the thing about this question
1:08:28
is it's contextual to the person and it's contextual to the situation. Because I think there are guys
1:08:32
that work a lot of hours that it fits for their lifestyle. It fits for their relationship with
1:08:37
their wife where they're still a dutiful husband, and they're also a doting father and they're a
1:08:42
present father. But then there are other people that work a ton of hours and they can't be those
1:08:46
other things. They certainly don't spend any time with God because you know, they're trying to spend
1:08:50
all the time with their boss or with their clients or something like that. And then there are people
1:08:54
that don't work nearly enough. So they're not protecting their family financially. They're not
1:08:59
taking care of business. They're putting their family in a precarious financial situation, which
1:09:03
I see a lot in my line of work. And so that's something that's not really appropriate either.
1:09:08
So I guess I'm kind of skating around this question a little bit. I guess the answer that I would give
1:09:13
is in terms of the amount of time that you should devote to your vocation, it is whatever is an
1:09:18
appropriate amount of time that will allow you to provide for your family in a way that would
1:09:22
be pleasing to God. Because here's the thing is if making that extra 10% on the, you know,
1:09:28
of commission or something like that is going to take away from your late relationship with God,
1:09:32
your relationship with your wife and your relationship with your kids, I don't think God would be cool
1:09:35
with that, right? So that's kind of the thing is that you should probably avoid that. But for all
1:09:40
of us guys, we know that sweet spot. Some of us don't don't get to choose. Some of us work in
1:09:45
that normal cubicle eight to five job. And your hours are what they are, you don't get overtime,
1:09:49
you have to show up by eight, you take your one hour lunch and you got to leave at five. But other
1:09:52
guys, they get to choose, maybe they own their own business or they're in some type of sales.
1:09:57
And so you can kind of control your calendar. It should be whatever it helps is conducive for
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your family and allows you to still be a good father, you know, husband, take care of yourself,
1:10:06
be a good Christian, you know, follow still be a disciple of Jesus and all that because all
1:10:10
those things do take time. All right, guys, last question here. What are the best tools for a man
1:10:14
to keep his masculinity and his Christian orthodoxy and survive in our current culture?
1:10:19
Okay, so the first part of that was basically keeping your masculinity. And you know, for us,
1:10:24
we talk about it, I'll say it again, cultivating spiritual, mental and physical resilience. So
1:10:28
we've had a lot of guys do our 21 day devotional and the U version Bible app. So we talk about that
1:10:32
a lot. But you know, at this point, over 40,000, 41,000 dudes have completed it. So if you go to
1:10:37
U version on your Bible app or on Bible calm, just search under plan shirts, undaunted life,
1:10:43
a man's podcast and our 21 day devotional is there. That's just kind of a good primer for,
1:10:47
you know, seven days on spiritual seven on mental and seven on physical resilience. So that's one way
1:10:52
to kind of keep up with how to keep your masculinity. But I guess the other part of that that question
1:10:57
is talking about Christian orthodoxy and you know, how to survive in current culture. Culture
1:11:01
doesn't supersede the Bible, y'all, like it doesn't. So culture would like to say that we're moving
1:11:06
past the Bible and we've progressed and we've, we've gotten better. I mean, we're killing babies
1:11:11
by the millions, but no, we've gotten better. We've progressed overall. So for me, I don't really
1:11:16
appreciate that line of thinking, but but the Bible is our foundation as Christians. And so
1:11:21
the 21 day devotional is going to really help you dig in because every single day, obviously,
1:11:24
has scripture readings with them, but the culture can't do anything to supersede what what the
1:11:29
truths are of the Bible, you know, to include in especially the gospel. So if you're trying to keep,
1:11:35
you know, your masculinity, look to the person of Jesus, who's the greatest man ever.
1:11:38
If you're thinking about Christian orthodoxy, where does Christian orthodoxy come from from the
1:11:43
Bible? How can we survive in our current culture where we look to the Bible to help us? We look
1:11:47
to the Bible to get wisdom. So that's how I would answer that one. So thanks a lot, guys. We're
1:11:51
going to do a quick resilience boost here before I let you go. We are a men's ministry. As you know,
1:11:55
this by now our mission is cultivating manly resilience. And specifically, we do that by
1:11:59
providing content that for just spiritual mental and physical toughness. So for today,
1:12:03
we're going to focus on mental and spiritual. And I just want to kind of I listed some things
1:12:06
here that I talked about here during this podcast, because I want to make sure that you know whenever
1:12:10
it's my ideas or if it's somebody else's that I'm barring their ideas, I want to always be up front
1:12:14
with that. So the stuff I included here is I have the article marijuana to the glory of God. I have
1:12:18
that article in here. When pot is legal, what do we say? And is recreational marijuana use a sin?
1:12:24
I also put the music videos for the three songs I talked about earlier. So that's
1:12:29
the finisher by Oh, sleeper whitewashed by August Burns red and Devastator by for today. I put those
1:12:34
in here. And then also that part where we're talking about, you know, basically, can we know
1:12:38
if people are going to hell if they haven't heard, you know, the message of the gospel, that kind of
1:12:41
thing. It's an article called lesson 11, God's impartial judgment Romans to 12 through 16. So I
1:12:46
put all those in there just so that y'all could follow up with that later. All right. Thank you as
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