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1:00 This is "I'm Daunted Life" a man's podcast.

1:13 I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.

1:15 All right, guys. We haven't done Q&A in a while, so we're going to go ahead and launch into the fourth version,

1:20 fourth volume, rather, of the Q&A podcast.

1:22 And if you'd like to be included in future Q&A podcast, go ahead and submit your questions to info@undaunted.life.

1:28 That's our email info@undaunted.life or any of our posts on Instagram,

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1:36 Just leave a question there. It doesn't even have to apply to what the post is about,

1:39 but just leave the question there. We kind of have some people and we make a bank of those questions

1:43 and then we pull them out here and there, depending upon what we want to talk about and what's relevant.

1:46 So let's see what you guys had for this time around. So let's get into the first question.

1:51 What is included in your EDC? All right. If you don't know what EDC is, that's every day carry.

1:56 So yeah, let me go ahead and describe what is on me on most days.

2:00 So the gun that I carry on me, I carry a six hour P938, nine millimeter.

2:04 So I carry it with the extended mag in and I have a flush mag that I keep in another place on me.

2:10 The ammo that I keep in there is a Winchester PDX1. That's a defender nine millimeter round.

2:14 It's 124 grain round. It's a hollow point. So that is what I carry on me. Some people might be like,

2:19 well, why don't you carry a full size or anything much bigger? Most of my clothes are fitted and I

2:24 wear them in kind of a business context. And so it's a little bit harder to conceal a full size.

2:29 And the P938 really is a super solid gun. So the holster that I carried in is in the alien gear.

2:35 It's the cloak tuck 3.0. So I know that there are more cloak tucks out there,

2:39 but that's the one that I got in. And really, it's a fantastic holster. I think it was, you know,

2:44 part of the algorithm on Facebook made me look at one of their ads or something like that. But

2:48 basically, the base of it is all the same and they change the outer part of it based on whatever

2:53 your carry gun is. So you tell them what your carry gun is and then they send that with it.

2:57 And it's adjustable and you can you can move some different things around, but it really is a solid

3:01 holster. It seemed to have held up pretty well. The pocket knife that I normally carry, I have a

3:04 bunch of different ones I carry, but the one that I carry the most often is my Benchmade

3:08 Kryptilian. So it's the plain coated blade. So I know some of them has serrated edges, but

3:14 I have the plain coated blade and it's 154 centimeter. And it's the one with the olive handle. So that

3:19 was one at first. I didn't really know what I how I felt about the grip tillion handle. For whatever

3:24 reason, it just kind of like felt cheap or something like that. I was like, Oh, this is like too much

3:28 plastic. But I couldn't have been more wrong. It's just an incredible blade on that knife. And

3:32 it's really, really solid all around. The watch that I wear normally is a G shock arrangement.

3:36 The wallet that I normally carry is a Z clip. So I don't even know if those are still around,

3:41 I'm pretty sure they are. But basically, it's just a minimalist wallet. So it's got a big clip on

3:46 the outside and then you have the stuff there on the inside. So I hardly ever have cash on me. I

3:50 usually just have a few cards. I don't like carry like if you have like a GNC or a champ sports or

3:55 one of those like membership cards, I don't carry that on me because they can look up just about

3:59 anything with with your cell phone number. So no need to have this big wallet that gives you like

4:04 sciatica or something like that. I also on my iPhone, I have a magpool field field case. It fits

4:10 really well. It's protected the phone anytime it's falling out of my pocket or out of a bag or

4:14 something like that or if I've dropped it. Now, and then also one thing I do want to add to my everyday

4:18 carry because that's pretty much all I do with my everyday carry is what I just described. I want

4:22 to add a tactical pin. And basically, I'm open to suggestions for ones that you all have seen out

4:28 there. One that I've seen and but it's a buddy of mine's company, it's contingent group. They've got

4:33 a tactical pin that looks really awesome. I have not had a chance to check that out. But of the ones

4:37 I've seen, that would probably be the one that I would spend the money on and grab that from them.

4:41 But if you do have tack pins that you've used or that you really like go and hit us up and let us know.

4:46 All right, next question. This one actually came an email from a listener and this actually came

4:51 this week from a guy named Forest Burke. And so I'm just going to read the email as it was written

4:55 and then I'll kind of get into the stuff from there. So with all the coverage in the media and

5:00 whatnot about what's going on down at the border, I've gotten in a few recent debates about it.

5:04 I'm for strong border control and immigration entering the United States the correct way

5:08 at a port of entry. The biggest debate has been about the separation of kids from parents.

5:13 I disagree with doing it. The solution wouldn't be or the solution would be don't cross the border

5:18 illegally. Some of the debate has been it's not quote Christian like to separate them and that we

5:24 need to show them the love of Christ and the same Christ same love that Christ would show them.

5:29 Just looking for some extra wisdom on the matter. Thank you for all that you do love the podcast.

5:33 I look forward to them every Thursday. Well, thank you very much for sending this out. We really

5:36 appreciate any time we get questions and I'm always down to have a good discussion. I wanted to go

5:41 and save this. I told him I would just talk about it here on the podcast, but there's so much

5:46 in this issue, right? There's even so much in the questions in this email, but it's not really simple

5:51 and cut and dry. And the thing about it is is we as a country, so let's just talk about the United

5:58 States. I'm not going to go over every different aspect of this and give my personal opinion,

6:01 but let's just kind of unpack some of it. So we don't enforce the laws and dictates of the Bible

6:06 as a country, right? Now there is a debate that's been had about whether or not we were even founded

6:12 under Christian principles. I think we very clearly have been. I'll probably do a future podcast

6:16 episode on that exact subject matter because it's kind of a popular opinion now amongst liberals

6:21 that we were never founded under Christian principles, which is just kind of silly. But the

6:24 thing about it is, is we don't enforce the laws and dictates of the Bible as a country. We enforce

6:29 the laws of the land, or at least we're supposed to, right? So it's not that as a country, we have

6:35 to do everything in a Christlike manner. But in terms of the policy that has kind of created this

6:40 firestorm recently about immigration and just kind of brought it into the general consciousness

6:44 again, let's just kind of talk about what's actually going on with this policy. Because if you go to

6:48 the mainstream media, you're not going to be getting the right story, or you'll get it, but it's just

6:53 like in paragraph 20 of an article or something like that. So the thing was, is back in 1997,

6:58 the Clinton administration, they signed something called the Flores Agreement. So this was something

7:03 where they got together with a bunch of advocates of of immigrants. And they signed this declaration

7:07 that basically said that a child or an unaccompanied minor who came across the southern border with

7:15 their illegal immigrant parents, they could not be held in custody for longer than 20 days, right?

7:20 They couldn't be held in custody together. So if we fast forward to the Obama administration,

7:24 let's look at 2014, 2015, we had a gigantic wave of migrants that came from Latin America,

7:31 Central America, and they came across our border with children. And so what the Obama administration

7:37 decided to do was hold the parents and the kids there together. So and at the time, even they called

7:44 this a deterrent, and which is interesting because you fast forward to today, and you have people in

7:48 the Trump administration alluding to the fact or saying that it is a deterrent. And they're like,

7:52 Oh my gosh, they're like heartless jerks. It's like, well, they did it during the Obama administration.

7:56 So you can't have, you know, selective amnesia there. But basically, this was designed to keep

8:02 people from coming to the US. That was the whole point of this law. But there was a lawsuit that

8:06 was filed against that policy against the policy of keeping children, you know, basically incarcerated

8:12 with their parents. And the Ninth Circuit Court, which is a super super liberal court, they said

8:17 that if you arrest the parents, the kids cannot be kept in custody for longer than 20 days. They

8:22 basically upheld what what was being decided at that point. So what ended up happening during the

8:27 Obama administration is Obama basically ignored that he ignored what the court said. And they just

8:34 didn't arrest anyone. So basically it was kind of a catch and release. So basically what it was is

8:39 they would wait, they would catch you at the border. They wouldn't put you into any type of

8:43 detention or anything like that. And then they would release you into the population, basically

8:47 with a court date. And the they were basically trusting you to show up at court at your appointed

8:52 time. So we can obviously see the issue inherent here. So we're basically doing the, you know,

8:58 let's just let's just make sure we're all honest and nice. You know, we're gonna do the honor system

9:03 and hope that you come to court. So what ended up happening is about 40% of people that were caught

9:07 that way didn't show up to court. It was like a miracle. How could that possibly have happened?

9:11 Now that you fast forward to 2017 and this year, Trump says they're not doing catch and release

9:16 anymore. Okay, it's a zero tolerance policy that if you were caught coming across the border,

9:22 that you will be arrested and charged for that. So everyone that comes across the border illegally

9:26 will be cross prosecuted as an illegal immigrant. Okay, if you want to apply for a asylum,

9:32 which is something that we obviously will allow people to do, you have to go to a port of entry,

9:37 right? Which is easy enough. Everyone knows where these ports and entries are. But here's the

9:41 thing is if you try to cross the border where there is no border control and you are caught,

9:44 you will be charged with a crime because it is a crime. So Trump wasn't separating the parents

9:50 from kids because he hates Latinos and he hates their kids and he wants them to die and you know,

9:55 all this extreme stuff. It was the law on the books and he did something crazy and decided

10:00 to actually enforce that law. Okay, so but but here's the thing is I'm not necessarily saying

10:06 it's a good law. I mean, the idea of separating parents from their kids like that seems seems

10:11 crazy. Now that's just on its face when you get into some of the individual circumstances that

10:17 we've seen at the border, it might be a good idea to separate these parents from their children

10:20 considering what some of these parents are doing. But that's not really what we want to do. We don't

10:24 want to go on the fringe. We want to just go from the normal 30,000 foot view that that's probably

10:29 not a good thing to do overall. Trump signed an executive order basically saying that they weren't

10:34 going to separate the children from the parents anymore. But if you look at the executive order,

10:38 the language in it's pretty weak. It's actually super weak. It doesn't really change much of

10:42 anything. So it's we're still kind of in the okay, we're either going to catch and release them in

10:46 the population or we're going to separate them thing. It's just kind of weird. But the thing is,

10:51 guys, as many of the images that we're seeing coming out on Twitter or in the news, a lot of

10:57 these images were actually from the Obama administration. So the the media was interestingly very silent

11:03 during that time about that. But these images are not just from today, they're from four and five

11:08 years ago, in some cases. So but there's kind of that main image that's been making the rounds. It's

11:14 that little girl that was allegedly being separated from her mother at the border. If you know what

11:18 I'm talking about, it's basically made the rounds on Facebook. So you see all these people, you know,

11:22 basically signaling how great they are that they're giving to this cause on Facebook to basically

11:28 re reunite families with their children. And they use this picture of this little girl that's

11:32 basically looking up at her mom being arrested by this evil ice agent, right? But there's some

11:38 very interesting things about that is that little girl is from Honduras and she was never actually

11:42 separated from her mother. Yeah, you know, Time magazine puts this little girl on the cover,

11:49 big red cover with her looking up at Donald Trump, and he's just looking down at her smiling and

11:53 it says, welcome to America, right? So so it was just basically this little girl was never separated

11:59 from her mother. Her mother was trying to cross into the United States illegally. And her mother

12:03 is not a heroin. Her mother actually abandoned three other of her kids back in Honduras to basically

12:10 try and get across the border illegally. So that's not an indictment on what's going on in Honduras

12:15 versus what the opportunities would be like in the United States. But when we look at it like that,

12:18 it's just like, man, we're getting all this crazy amount of information. And most of it's

12:22 not being vetted. And you certainly aren't going to see Time magazine, they already came out and

12:26 said they're not going to run a retraction. They're not going to say, Oh, I'm so sorry,

12:30 we depicted Donald Trump in a negative light. There's no way they would ever do that. But you know,

12:35 let's let's just kind of get into my personal opinion on some of this stuff. And this is just,

12:40 I'm just going to kind of free flow, just some of my basic opinions on this and just see if we

12:46 can keep it from being too overtly political. But but basically, if you don't have borders,

12:49 you don't have a country, like that's just a geographical thing. So I live in the state of

12:53 Oklahoma. The reason I know that I live in the state of Oklahoma, and not Texas or Kansas or

12:58 Arkansas or Missouri or something like that, is because we have a border. Now we don't have walls

13:02 around that border, but there is a border. Okay. A lot of kind of open border people,

13:06 they all tend to lock their doors at night, which is pretty interesting. And open border

13:11 politicians, people that want open borders. These are people that live in gated neighborhoods with

13:15 walls, right? And they have some of them even have armed guards at the gates and different things

13:19 like that. So the thing about this whole debate is people often conflate immigration with illegal

13:26 immigration, right? So immigration on one side, and illegal immigration on the other. I think it's

13:32 it's kind of crazy to give a front of the line treatment to someone that is kind of snuck in the

13:37 back door. That doesn't really make sense to me. And when people are like, what do you mean by that?

13:41 Well, obviously, I'm talking about whenever someone has basically been in the system for years,

13:45 trying to get their citizenship and they did it the right way and they let the government know

13:48 who they are, where they are, what they're, what they're trying to do. And then someone just kind

13:52 of waltzes across the border. And then, you know, ends up in our system that way. And we're supposed

13:58 to take care of them. It's kind of a weird thing to me. Like, if you wrote a restaurant, let's say

14:02 it's a new swanky restaurant and you've, you know, gotten in line and you want to take your wife

14:08 to this great restaurant, and it's going to be like a 90 minute wait, and you're waiting there,

14:12 and you're waiting, and you know, you're making your way through the line, and maybe it's about 30

14:15 minutes in or so. And then you just see somebody with his wife walking through the back door and

14:20 sit down at an empty table. Wouldn't that make you kind of angry? Like, just on a basic standpoint,

14:25 it's just like, wait a minute. Like, this is third grade stuff. Like, dude, you just cut in line.

14:30 Like, you can't do that. Also, I'm not a huge fan of the lottery system. I don't know if any of

14:34 you are very familiar with that. But if you're here on a visa of some kind, like a work visa or

14:38 student visa, basically the chances of you staying in this country are based completely on a lottery,

14:44 right? I actually have a lot of friends that that I worked with at a former job, they were

14:48 software developers over in India. And, you know, you only get so many chances in this lottery before

14:53 they send you back to your country. And these are incredible guys that work incredibly hard,

14:59 and they're going to make really good money and they're going to make companies better at everything

15:02 you could possibly want in an American, but we have a lottery system. So Joe Schmo idiot could

15:08 end up staying and someone who could be a future doctor or CEO of a company is being sent back to

15:13 their country. So, you know, I, in my opinion, I think we should be able to pick who comes and

15:18 stays in this country. I think the lottery system is broken. It's ridiculous. DACA, there's obviously

15:22 a lot to talk about there. You know, it's just a crazy situation that these kids are going through,

15:29 you know, they were walked across a border whenever they were too young to even walk or talk in most

15:32 situations. And now they're here and the only thing they know is America. And, you know, that's

15:37 such a weird thing. I've talked to some some people that are DACA recipients. I've talked to

15:41 people that were illegal immigrants and had illegal immigrants in their families. Just wanted to

15:45 hear about their situation from their point of view because obviously I can't share that point of

15:49 view because I've never lived it. But one, one argument that I've heard on DACA that I think is

15:54 incredibly interesting is let's say your parents embezzled money. So let's just make up this whole

16:00 scenario. They embezzled money using their company and they embezzled $10 million. And right before

16:05 they were caught, they put the $10 million in your bank account. But then they get caught, they get

16:11 arrested. Here's the question. Do you get to keep the money? Like your parents are the ones that

16:18 broke the law. You weren't the one that broke the law. And they just basically gave you all the

16:22 benefits of them breaking the law. Do you get to keep the money? In that scenario, it's pretty

16:27 obvious. It's a pretty obvious binary of no, you wouldn't. But, you know, with immigration, it's like,

16:31 well, do you just get to stay here? And that's the thing is, I don't know, I go back and forth on

16:37 that one because there's way too much humanity involved there, right? Also, here's the thing,

16:41 like a physical border like a wall, it's obviously a deterrent. Like if you have someone that, you know,

16:46 can just like walk across the border, that's obviously way different than if they're trying

16:50 to scale a 20, 30 foot wall, that's got barbed wire and it goes way down deep under the, under the

16:56 surface of the earth. And you know, whatever the thing is, it's just kind of, that's going to be a

17:00 deterrent. But you know, a wall is only as good as its ability to not be penetrated. I mean, if

17:04 you can get through the wall or over the wall or under the wall pretty easily, then it's just,

17:07 it's just a physical barrier. You know what I mean? Now, and then there's some other things

17:11 just kind of think of some other opinions that I might have. Are there Republicans or

17:16 conservatives that don't want immigrants here because they're racist, because they hate brown

17:20 people and they think that they're, you know, an inferior race? Sure. I'm sure that there are some

17:26 morons, some dorks out there like that. But that's the overwhelming minority of people

17:33 that actually think that, right? Overwhelming minority. Now, a lot of Democrats, they obviously

17:38 want blanket amnesty and they want open borders, because then all of the migrants, the illegal

17:42 immigrants would overwhelmingly vote for them, right? So if you just open up the border at the

17:47 South, you got rid of ice, which a lot of people have been calling for this week. Let's just get

17:51 rid of ice. Let's get rid of border control. And people could just come in. Those people

17:55 overwhelmingly vote for Democrats and Democrats, it would almost be impossible for them to lose

18:00 future elections. Like that would, that would be incredibly difficult thing for them to do.

18:03 You know, some other things to say that all illegal immigrants are bad is absurd. I've heard

18:08 some people try to say that. I mean, it's just, it's just really, really a stupid argument. But

18:12 also at the same time to say that none of them are bad is also absurd. And it just flies in the face

18:17 of reality. I mean, a recent statistic that was released is the illegal immigrant population in

18:22 the United States is somewhere around three and a half percent of the US population. But they commit

18:27 about 37% of the murders. And just think about that. They 3.5% of the population is committing

18:34 almost 40% of the murders in this country. A lot of that you'll, you'll see comes from groups like

18:39 MS 13, which is probably one of the most violent gangs on the planet earth of any kind. There were

18:45 even reports that are coming out from guys that are actually on the border who, you know, about half

18:50 of which are Latino men. So just throwing that out there. But these ICE agents, they're actually

18:55 catching people that are coming across the border that are from the Middle East.

18:58 So these are individuals that are coming over here. They've got multiple passports. They've got

19:02 weapons. They've got currency like from five or six different countries. And they're just kind of

19:07 walking across the border solo. So when people are thinking that there might be some sort of a

19:11 terrorist element here from Middle Eastern groups that can't really get us, you know,

19:16 New York City flying to a building style, but maybe the lone wolf style. That's not that crazy.

19:21 But again, I'm kind of getting off subject and I've spent a lot of time on this just because I

19:24 wanted to make sure I answer the question fully for this individual. But to go back to his original

19:29 question, which is just basically like, you know, how do we operate as a Christian? You know,

19:34 why don't we just be more Christ like with these individuals? This is kind of where I would like to

19:38 summarize what we're talking about here. We do not again, I'll go back to the very beginning

19:42 what whenever I started talking about this, like we do not base what we do in this country

19:47 law wise off of what the Bible says we should do. And I've seen a lot of people on both sides

19:52 of this argument, people that are pro illegal immigration people that are anti illegal immigration,

19:56 you know, pro this anti that I've seen them use scripture incorrectly. They're giving no context.

20:02 And so what I was going to do is I was going to provide some contextual scripture for you. But

20:06 at the same time, it would it would cause me to go so far down the rabbit hole for you that I don't

20:11 know that it would be necessarily helpful. Because again, there's really nothing in the Bible that

20:15 talks specifically about the subject matter, right? You know, the word is a lamp unto our feet. It's

20:21 not a floodlight. And so it doesn't really answer everything for us. We can kind of get context clues.

20:27 So I can just say I haven't heard any compelling arguments that people are giving using a scriptural

20:32 basis for why we should or shouldn't do things a certain way as a country. But what we can say

20:37 is that Jesus was someone that basically was standing up for obeying by the law of the land.

20:43 And if there is a law of the land right now, whether you agree with it or that you don't,

20:47 you should want it to be enforced. Because when we start picking and choosing the things that we

20:52 want enforced, it's really going to hurt us as a country overall. And I hate that an administration

20:57 can do that. You know, you go from a blue administration to a red administration, and then all of a sudden

21:03 laws are being ignored or laws are being just thrown by the wayside or laws are being like

21:08 stringently followed. I think that's a recipe for disaster. So this is what I would say to the

21:13 Christian that is in this debate. Our call is to love people, right? John 133435, like we've

21:20 got to love people and we need to be defined by how we love people. So if you run across an

21:25 illegal immigrant, is it your job to call ICE and report them? Think about what love requires

21:32 of you at that situation. This person's a violent felon. I know what I would do. But I'm not you.

21:38 And we look at things a little bit differently. But again, we should be able to accept people.

21:42 We should be able to help individuals. But again, we are not a country that runs everything based

21:48 off of Christianity, based off the dictates of Jesus's life and ministry. It's just not something

21:52 that we do. So I know this answer was a little bit all over the place, because I kind of just free

21:56 flowed with with my ideas and my opinions on certain things. And this is probably the longest

22:00 I've ever spent on a single question on a Q and a podcast. But hopefully that's just a sufficient

22:05 primer for you. When you're when you're sitting across from somebody that disagrees with you,

22:09 remember that they have the amago day, they have the image of God written on them, they have a soul.

22:14 So even if they're making ridiculous arguments, they're not making sense. It's not your job to

22:18 point out how stupid they are. But if they are quoting mistruth, it is your job, if you know the

22:23 truth, to tell them what that is, to help them understand. But the thing is, is you have to go

22:29 into a conversation with the goal of being able to shake shake hands and leave his friends,

22:34 even if you still disagree with one another at the end of it. Okay. So again, long answer to a

22:39 relatively short question, but hopefully that's a little bit helpful. Let's go into the next question.

22:43 My wife and I are done having kids and we had all girls. I'm struggling with knowing that my

22:48 family name won't get passed on and that I have no boys to lead to manhood. How do I get past these

22:54 thoughts? Okay, that's a that's a pretty tough one. So just again, I'm a guy who I don't have any

22:59 kids yet. So Lord willing, my wife and I will be able to do that someday. I am super rooting for a

23:04 boy. You know, it's kind of one of those things we're not going to be able to have a gender reveal

23:09 party with a bunch of friends, because if it's a boy, I'm going to lose my mind and rip my clothes

23:13 off and start running around the neighborhood. But if it's a girl, I'm going to have to like go out

23:17 in the woods for a day or two and just like think and like prepare my head to have to worry about

23:22 every single other penis on the planet as opposed to worrying about a boy and a singular penis,

23:27 you know what I mean? Like it's just kind of like in my head, it's going to be really, really tough

23:31 to do. And so, but the thing is, is I have a lot of friends actually that only have girls. So they

23:37 have two or three kids, it was all girls and they're like, that's it. And that's all. And they weren't

23:41 really concerned about having to raise a man or, you know, having their name passed on. And guys,

23:46 this is not incredibly rare. There are family names that die all the time. I mean, people that

23:50 can't have kids don't have kids only have girls, you know, they don't have boys to kind of pass

23:55 on the name in the traditional sense. In terms of the thoughts that are in your head, the thing

24:01 that I would encourage the guy who who sent this question in is that God gave you those daughters.

24:06 Those daughters are a gift. Again, coming from a guy who's not a parent, but those daughters are

24:11 a gift. And you could lead them uniquely into a pathway of Christ-centered womanhood.

24:19 You know, is it going to be the same as, you know, teaching a boy how to throw a fastball

24:22 or, you know, taking them on a hike? No, it's not going to be the same. It's going to be a very

24:26 different type of a thing. But you still have a tremendous calling on your life to love your wife

24:31 and to teach your daughters how someone should love them. So when I think about men having daughters,

24:38 that's like the tippy top. Aside from showing them who Christ is and what his love is like,

24:42 you love your wife in a way that is so extreme that when they have some numb nut in high school,

24:47 that's one of the hoops. So grew and go out, you know, that's stupid crap. They're going to be like,

24:52 dude, you're gross. Go away because they're going to instinctively think I need to find a man like,

24:58 you know, that treats me like my dad has treated my mom. I think that's one of the most incredible

25:03 things that you can do as a dad. But here's the other thing I would say as I wrap up this question

25:08 is just because you don't have a son that is your blood does not mean that you can't lead boys

25:12 to manhood. I mean, just think about that. There are plenty of men's groups, you know,

25:17 not not no longer the boy scouts for obvious reasons. But there are plenty of men's groups

25:21 that are through ministries and outside of ministries where boys need help.

25:25 There are gigantic swaths of the population. I think I talked about this on a past podcast.

25:30 The fatherlessness epidemic is is unbelievable. It's gone up exponentially in the white community.

25:35 I think about 50% of Hispanic boy or boys and girls are born into households where dad's not

25:41 around three and four black kids are born in a household where dad's not around. There's plenty

25:45 of opportunity to lead boys to manhood like take a boy under your wing that there's plenty of legal

25:52 ways and in ways through ministries and through nonprofits where you can help boys. Okay. And you

25:58 have the power of Google at your fingertips on your computer, on your phone, whatever you need to do.

26:03 Talk to people about it. There's plenty of opportunities to do that. So if that's the void

26:06 that you're feeling and you need to fill that void somehow, there's plenty of ways to do that.

26:10 All right. Next question. Who slash what comes to mind when you hear the word successful? Okay.

26:16 So when I first saw this, you know, I kind of had my knee jerk reaction. So in terms of who my knee

26:20 jerk reaction was, you know, guys like Michael Jordan or Warren Buffett or Nick Saban or someone

26:25 that you're just like, man, they're just these people are crushing it and they've crushed it

26:28 for so long. And in terms of like what, you know, the what part of it, the knee jerk reaction was,

26:33 you know, money, lots and lots of money. All those guys have lots of money. They've got the big houses,

26:38 they've got the cars, they've got the trophies that they've presented to big groups and everyone's

26:42 just kind of slobbering over how great they are and all that. But then I started to reflect a little

26:47 bit more and got to think a little bit more about about different things. And I started to think

26:52 about people in my own life in terms of what success means. And someone that came to mind is

26:57 a mentor of mine that I've had for over a decade, his name's Dr. Dwight Adams. So this is a guy that's

27:02 from Edmund, Oklahoma, the town that I live in now. He's, you know, like an OG from Edmund, you know,

27:06 when whenever this town used to be like two or three streets wide, you know, that's whenever he

27:10 grew up. But this is a guy who ended up being the director of the crime laboratory in Langley,

27:15 Virginia for the FBI, you know, works under several different administrations. He was the very first

27:20 scientist to testify using DNA evidence. Like so think about every single court case on the planet

27:25 Earth, whether it's rape or murder or terrorism or something like that, there's always DNA evidence.

27:29 He was the first scientist to ever actually testify using that. So he's like world famous dude.

27:35 He's like the most humble guy ever. Like he is so unbelievably humble. The only reason I know

27:42 all these things that I just said about this guy is because someone else told me or I read it in a

27:46 bio. He's never talked about him. He's actually very sheepish about his accomplishments. And

27:52 here's the other thing that I think about when I think about successful in terms of the what I

27:55 think, you know, if you have a spouse that loves you and adores you and respects you and you have

28:00 kids that do the same. And if you have like an active ongoing discipleship with Jesus like man,

28:05 that would be really successful. And again, in my life, that's Dr. Dwight Adams. This is a guy that

28:09 just absolutely does that like he has the adoration of his spouse. They've been married for decades

28:15 and decades. And just you can still see how she looks at him. She's totally completely in love

28:19 with him. His kids have a deep level of respect for him. Like he's definitely the patriarch of

28:23 the family. I've seen him, you know, basically coordinate this big family reunion with people

28:29 from all over the country. And he was the center point the entire time, even though he's the most

28:32 humble, unassuming guy that you would think, or, you know, that you would know, right? And so

28:38 for him, he's obviously had a very big, robust discipleship with Jesus. And he's constantly

28:45 kept that a center point of his life. And so again, when I think about successful,

28:49 the thing that your mind automatically goes to is what you would typically think. And that's the

28:53 money and the adoration and maybe the women or whatever the thing is that you're basing it off of.

28:58 But it's those guys in your life that are just solid to the core. And maybe no one knows

29:03 them outside of your small community or outside of your church or something like that. And maybe

29:08 they're super well known. But it's the people that are really, really solid through and through.

29:12 All right, let's go into the next question. With regards to freedom of speech,

29:17 how can we as Christians become better informed about not only our constitutional rights,

29:22 but where our boundaries are biblically? So that's a really good question. It's got a lot of different

29:26 things you can talk about there. But it's such an American question, right? Because if you think

29:30 about it, like we're the only country that has free freedom of speech. So when you think about that,

29:34 we're also spoiled by it. But this is something that people literally would and have died for

29:39 other places. So super American question, but I definitely dig it. So I guess if you want to know,

29:44 be better informed about your constitutional rights, well, first of all, read the Constitution,

29:47 that's kind of your, you know, read commentaries on the Constitution, because sometimes when you're

29:52 reading the Constitution in that older English language, it's a little bit hard to decipher what

29:56 they're talking about. But also read decisions that are written by, you know, original list and

30:02 textualists, Supreme Court judges. That's a good way to kind of get into the minutiae of what's

30:07 happening in the Constitution. So I would read decisions on different court cases by, you know,

30:12 Antonin Scalia, Neil Gorsuch, Clarence Thomas, I mean, those those types of guys would be considered

30:17 originalists or textualists. So I would check that out. And in terms of understanding what our

30:21 boundaries are, biddlically, obviously the second is read the Bible, read commentaries on the Bible,

30:27 listen to sermons from pastors that take the inerrancy of the Bible seriously. But the thing

30:33 about freedom of speech is you really have to look at it in three ways. When I was thinking through

30:37 how to answer this question was like, how do we use it? How do we understand it? And how should we

30:41 categorize it? Right. And so how we use free speech, scripture I came across was Proverbs 31,

30:47 eight, nine, and it's this, open your mouth for the mute for the rights of all who are destitute,

30:52 open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor in the needy. So if you're using

30:59 your free speech to say how much you hate the coach of the other team, that's not your team,

31:04 probably a waste, probably a waste of your time, right? But if you're standing up for the rights

31:10 of people, right? So for instance, if you're the guy on Twitter on Instagram, that's always

31:15 sharing things about abortion, because you really, really care about the the lives of the unborn

31:20 children that are being slaughtered every single day. I think that's a pretty good use of your free

31:24 speech, right? So that's just the kind of thing about how you use your free speech. But then how

31:28 to understand your free speech, I came across another scripture in Proverbs, this is Proverbs 12 18,

31:34 and it says this, there is one whose rash words are like sword, we'll start over, there is one

31:41 whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing, right? A little

31:46 bit of a tongue twister there, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. So that is the understanding

31:52 of what you are capable of when you use your free speech, that if you're really harsh with your words,

31:58 it can literally be like you're stabbing somebody, right? So just when you think about that, you have

32:04 a responsibility whenever you open your mouth. And then even beyond that, the things that you say

32:10 could bring wisdom to people, it can heal people, it can help people. So there are moments when I

32:16 think you should absolutely use your freedom of speech, and kind of figure out where you sit in

32:20 the cosmos, and how you should best utilize what you're able to put out there. But then the last

32:25 thing we should look at is how to categorize free speech used against you, right? So the other two

32:31 were, you know, you using the free speech, but how should you categorize free speech that used

32:35 against you? Okay, so let's look at 1 Peter 4, verse 14. If you are insulted for the name of Christ,

32:41 you are blessed because the spirit of glory and of God is upon you. So just think about that the

32:48 times that you have been beaten down someone that has used their willingness to give free speech

32:53 to attack you to attack your Christianity, to attack your discipleship with Jesus. You are

32:58 blessed in that moment. Again, I talk about this all the time. Someone putting a snarky comment on

33:05 your Facebook post about scripture or something like that is not really that bad. It's just not.

33:12 We have people getting their heads chopped off in Northern Africa, because they follow Jesus Christ.

33:17 So again, that is not these are not equal in any way, shape or form. It may seem like that,

33:24 because when that's the worst thing that's happened to you all day, you haven't had to walk

33:27 seven miles to get your water, or have to worry about getting eaten by a lion or something like

33:32 that on the way, that's probably not the hardest thing that you've had to deal with. But if people

33:38 are just being nasty, you do online or they're bullying you via text or at school or something

33:42 like that, you may think that, man, I'm really running into it right now. This is this is really,

33:46 really tough. I just want you to think in those moments, regardless of what's going on in your

33:49 life that you are blessed. So if someone's using their free speech against you and they're trying

33:53 to beat you down with it, it's okay. You'll be all right. So let's move on to number six,

33:58 sixth question of the day, I read your 21 day men's devotional on you version multiple times,

34:03 and I've gotten a lot out of it every time I've taken it on. Do you plan on writing another one

34:07 at any time soon? If so, when? Okay, well, hey, first of all, thank you so much for doing that.

34:12 That has actually done really, really well that means devotional. I think just last week, it

34:16 eclipsed the 40,000 completions mark. So thank you so much, everybody that's read that, shared it

34:22 around the people that have read it multiple times. I mean, when I first submitted it, I didn't think

34:26 40 people would read it. And here we are 40,000 deep. Here's the thing, I will probably write one

34:33 again at some point. But at this point, I would say the odds are better that I would actually

34:39 write a full on book than writing another devotional. So obviously writing a book versus writing a

34:44 devotional, it's much it's a much different undertaking. But it took me a while to write that 21 day

34:49 devotional. And you know, it took a lot of effort. You know, I again, I didn't think that many people

34:55 were going to read it. So I didn't like, you know, it didn't take me like three years to write or

34:58 something like that. But it did take quite a bit of time. But yeah, the odds are probably better

35:02 that I would write an entire book about the philosophy of unbaunted life and our philosophy on manhood

35:07 and how those things manifest than writing another devotional. But in the meantime, I know a lot of

35:11 guys that have read the devotional multiple times and kind of like watching a movie for a second time,

35:15 you get something out of it a little bit different. There's something else that you noticed. We also

35:18 have a five day marriage devotional, it's called an undaunted marriage. So if you go to the U version

35:22 Bible app and you go to plans or if you go to Bible calm and look at it there, just search undaunted

35:27 and it's going to be the only two that pop up is the 21 day and the five day. And so there's one that

35:32 I'm thinking about this year that I may try to write with my wife, it's called undaunted wife.

35:37 And so because I'm running into some ladies that their guys are kind of they're down with the

35:41 concepts of undaunted life and they don't really know how to take it. You know, their husband's

35:45 working on their spiritual, mental and physical resilience and they're making some changes and

35:48 it's a little bit intimidating. They don't quite know how to support. They don't quite know if they

35:52 should support. And so that's kind of a working idea I'm running over with my wife right now. So

35:57 we'll see if that comes out later. All right, let's move on to the next question.

36:00 I know you're a big UFC slash MMA fan. So several questions. Okay, it looks like he's got a bunch

36:06 of different questions here. So this is the ones he's asking me. Okay, who is the greatest fighter

36:10 of all time? Who is your favorite fighter of all time? Who is your least favorite fighter of all time?

36:16 What is the greatest fight of all time? What is your your favorite fight of all time? And what is

36:22 your favorite moment in MMA history? Okay, these are going to be fun to answer. Okay, so all right,

36:27 so the first question is who is the greatest fighter of all time? So I have to look at this in two

36:32 different ways. Okay, because I think there is a clear answer to this, but it's not cut and dry.

36:39 So, okay, I thought about this. This is how weird my brain is. I thought about this multiple times.

36:45 So let's say it's like old school days, like back like when all the Greek different city

36:49 states were fighting each other. Sometimes they would have the entire army to attack the entire

36:53 army. But there were other times whenever each army would send their greatest warrior,

36:57 their champion, and each army's champion would fight each other. And the winning champion,

37:03 his side would win, right? So basically one person died as opposed to hundreds or thousands,

37:08 right? So I've thought in my brain multiple times, if that's how it worked for the United States,

37:13 and we go to war with Russia or something like that. And we got to pick one dude to win a bare

37:19 knuckle fight to save all of American life. The person I'm picking is John Bones Jones.

37:25 That's who I'm going with. So if I need one human to win one fight, John Jones is the

37:31 baddest dude on the planet. He technically is undefeated like he has a lost quote unquote loss

37:37 to Matt Hamill. But you know, he threw a 12 six elbow, which is an illegal strike, but he was destroying

37:42 Matt Hamill that so he's basically an undefeated fighter. He has one no contest that came from his

37:48 second fight against Daniel Cormier. But but here's the thing with with John Jones is he's got a lot

37:54 of crap on his record, right? And I don't mean his fighting record. I mean his personal record.

37:58 He's got DUI's. He's got hit and runs. He did a hit and run on a pregnant woman. You know, cocaine,

38:04 he popped for steroids twice. You know, the but here's the thing is both times his his reasons

38:10 for why he popped were completely plausible. And you know, this is a guy that has abused cocaine.

38:16 And if you know anything about the process of cocaine, sometimes cocaine is cut with other

38:20 substances. And those other substances can be things that were made in factories in like China,

38:26 where they'll do one vat of, you know, whey protein. And then the next vat will be some sort of

38:32 anabolic steroid. And then the vat after that is, you know, of whey protein again, but they don't

38:37 ever clean the vat. And so you're gonna get trace amounts of something that would cause you to get

38:41 a positive test in, you know, whey protein. And if you did cocaine, then you know, he sucked it up

38:46 his nose and he got a little bit of a trace amount of antibiotics in there. Anyway, but so when you

38:50 just look out who's got to win one fight, John Jones is the greatest fighter of all time. It's not

38:54 even close. But when you take all things into consideration, so what they've done inside the

38:59 octagon, the impressiveness of that, and everything they did outside of that, I think George Saint

39:03 Pierre is the greatest fighter of all time. So he only has two losses. He avenged both of those Matt

39:08 Hughes and Matt Sarah. And when he avenged them, he had avenged them very, very violently. This

39:13 is a guy who dominated the 170 pound division for an incredibly long period of time. This is a guy

39:19 that cleaned out the division pretty much twice. They were running out of people to get him to

39:23 fight. And this was during the steroid era. And there was never never really a time this, you know,

39:28 pre usada where there was any even thought that George Saint Pierre would be one of those people

39:33 that would be abusing antibiotics. And he was so outspoken about being against that. But he's

39:38 just such an incredible guy inside and outside the octagon. He takes, you know, years off, I think

39:44 it ended up being like three or four years and he comes back and he fights at 185. I know he

39:48 fought Michael Bisming. But again, he, you know, he came back and he looked almost better than before

39:53 he left after taking such a huge time off. So again, kind of a kind of a hard way to answer that

39:58 question. But you know, gotta have one guy win one fight. It's gonna be John Jones. But you know,

40:02 greatest all time fighter, all things considered George Saint Pierre. Next question is who is your

40:06 favorite fighter of all time. So I kind of have my top three. So number three is Forest Griffin.

40:10 I always loved watching him. I remember watching that first ultimate fighter finale where him and

40:15 Stefan Bonner basically made the UFC what it is today. Got all these eyeballs attached to it.

40:20 This was a guy who just he didn't have superior talent. But he had supreme will.

40:27 Like this, this was a guy that, you know, was really, really nervous until the moment he got

40:31 punched in the face and he's like, Oh, okay, I'm in a fight. This is really, really cool. You know,

40:35 he wrote a book called Got Fight, which is on our 100 books every modern Christian man should read

40:39 lists. He's an incredibly funny guy. You know, when he beat Shogun whoa, that was an incredible

40:43 thing. This is Shogun coming over from pride, you know, a huge big time champion and Forest

40:48 Griffin beats him. You know, when he beat Rampage Jackson for the title, like I remember being so

40:52 nervous sitting there, Buffalo Wild Wings trying to figure things out. And you know, so I really

40:55 like watching him. My second favorite fighter is George St. Pierre. So this is just a guy who is so

41:00 good at so many different things. And you know, his training is very, very different. You know,

41:05 he's going to try to train at something that you're better than him at. And he's going to try to

41:09 beat you at that thing. You know, he does gymnastics just so his body can move better. He's just a

41:14 supreme athlete. And this was a guy that was bullied mercilessly growing up. And he, you know, he ended

41:18 up changing and getting better and then learning how to fight. And so great, great guy. But again,

41:24 my favorite fighter of all time, it's just got to be Connor McGregor. And yes, I know some people

41:29 are like, how can you support a guy that, you know, does this and does that? Dude, I've been paying

41:34 attention to what he's been doing. The stuff he's been saying. And that, you know, fiasco in Brooklyn,

41:39 where he threw the dolly at the bus and busted all those things and potentially could have hurt

41:44 some fighters seriously. It's some of the dumbest crap I've ever seen. It's so abhorrently stupid.

41:48 But here's the thing. We're talking about my favorite fighter of all time. My favorite guy

41:53 who likes to get in a cage and punch other dudes in the face. And at the end of the day,

41:58 there is one fighter that if he's fighting on Saturday, it's stop the presses, screech to a halt.

42:04 I'm buying that and I'm watching it even if it's by myself. And that's Connor McGregor.

42:08 I don't do that for George St. Pierre as great as he is. I don't do that for John Jones. This

42:11 is great as he is. I don't do that for, you know, Max Holloway or for Frankie Edgar or anybody else.

42:17 I don't do that for those guys. I do it for Connor McGregor. He's my favorite fighter of all time.

42:21 Who's my least favorite fighter of all time? This is an easy one. Anderson Silva. I cannot

42:26 stand that guy. Do not like Anderson Silva. So here's the thing about Anderson Silva is I'm not

42:31 a hater. Everyone's always hating because he's so good. No, no, he has an impressive track record

42:36 of the guys he's beaten that he's beaten brutally. But the thing about Anderson Silva,

42:40 is there were so many fights in the Damien Maya one is the one that comes to mind the most,

42:45 where he was so superior to the person on the other side of the octagon from him

42:50 that he could have destroyed them quickly. But he would just toy with him. He would just kind of

42:54 dance around and, you know, do all this different stuff to try and taunt him. And it was so annoying

42:59 to me that somebody would do that that you could be so talented. And instead of just going in there

43:04 and taking care of business, you're going to go in there and dance like a moron. I mean,

43:07 whenever he lost to Chris Weidman the first time, that was one of the greatest moments that I've

43:12 ever witnessed because it was it was what he had been doing his entire career, the taunting and

43:17 the pretending. And then he got caught and he got knocked out. So yeah, least favorite fighter of

43:21 all time couldn't stand the guy, not a huge fan of Michael Bizbing either. You know, there's a bunch

43:25 of other different fighters I'm not huge fan of, but yeah, Anderson Silva, definitely my least

43:29 favorite fighter ever. In my okay, the greatest fight of all time, in my opinion, the greatest

43:33 fight of all time is John Jones versus Alexander Gustafson. So that was UFC 165. This is a fight

43:40 that should have been rematch quickly. But then you know, lots of different things happen,

43:43 mainly John Jones being a moron. But that is the greatest fight that I've ever watched because

43:48 it's two guys that are so supremely equally matched with one another. This is the first time in John

43:54 Jones's career where he couldn't just, you know, a little brother, some dude and keep him way out

43:58 at distance because Gustafson is the same size as he is. And here's the other thing about that

44:01 fight. I've gone back and watched that fight multiple times. So if you don't know who won John

44:06 Jones won that fight, he won it by unanimous decision. There was one fight, I think it was,

44:10 it was 48 47. And then the other two cards were 49 46. When I've watched that fight,

44:15 I remember watching it live. And I remember rewatching, I think Alexander Gustafson won that fight.

44:20 I think he won the first three rounds. I think John Jones very, very clearly won the last two rounds.

44:25 But I think Gustafson easily won those first three. I just don't see a scenario where John

44:29 Jones won those first three rounds. So Gustafson should have left with the belt that night, but he

44:33 didn't. But again, great, great fight. I think it's the greatest fight of all time. Okay, the next

44:37 question was, what is your favorite fight of all time? So my favorite fight of all time is Robbie

44:42 Lawler versus Rory and McDonald's. So this was UFC 189. If you're trying to figure out which one

44:47 that was, that was the one where Conor McGregor won the interim belt. This was a fight at before

44:52 that fight. So he beat Chad Mendez for the interim belt. But this fight was so unbelievably brutal.

44:58 These guys were just absolutely pummeled. Both of them were Robbie Lawler had a huge cut on his lip.

45:07 Rory McDonald's nose was broken so bad. He had to take a tremendous amount of time off after this

45:12 fight. You know, if you know how it ended, Robbie Lawler ends up stopping Rory McDonald in the fifth

45:17 round by just horrible, horrible shot to the nose. But the thing about this fight that makes it my

45:22 favorite fight to watch is because after the end of the fourth round, so this is a bloody war. It's

45:27 after the fourth round, you know, going into the fifth, it's tied two to two, whoever wins the fifth

45:31 round wins the fight and it's gone back and forth. Both guys have been rocked. But the bell sounds

45:36 at the end of the fourth round. And these guys just stand in the middle of the octagon and stare at

45:42 one another. They're both completely bloody. I mean, they've got 60 seconds in between rounds.

45:47 They've got to go back and get on the stool and get worked on. And they just basically stand there

45:51 and look at each other like, I can't believe you're still standing here. One of the coolest moments

45:56 I've ever ever witnessed. So, but now that kind of segues into my my last question here from this

46:01 guys, what is your favorite moment in MMA history? So my favorite moment in MMA history is when

46:06 Connor McGregor knocked out Jose Aldo in 13 seconds. So all we ever heard about was Jose Aldo and

46:13 he hasn't lost a fight in 10 years. And he's the greatest this ever and greatest that ever.

46:17 And he fought in the WEC. And you know, he was basically annoyed to the UFC champion.

46:21 And you know, he pulls out their first fight with an injury, you know, a rib injury, you know, under

46:25 kind of crazy circumstances or whatever. But Connor basically spent the better part of two years

46:31 torturing Jose Aldo, just getting in his head, needling him at press conferences and those

46:36 different things. And Jose Aldo is he, you know, he's an aggressive fighter, but he's like an

46:40 aggressive fighter in reverse. He's not normally coming forward. He's just destroying everything

46:44 that you're trying to do. He's an incredibly talented fighter. But 13 seconds into that fight,

46:50 Connor McGregor knocks him out with a left hand and then follows it up with with a little bit of a

46:54 hammer fist there on the ground and knocks him out cold. But the reason why this is my favorite

46:58 moment in MMA history is not because I watched it live and I lost my mind and, you know, did all

47:02 those different things. It is because what he did in the fight where he basically was relied on his

47:08 front foot and going back and forth and then hitting that left hand shot that straight left hand shot

47:14 as he's going backwards. He trained that right before the fight. Like you see him warming up for

47:20 the fight and he does the exact thing. So it was like he knew it was coming. He knew that Jose

47:26 wanting to just kill Connor for all the things he had said and done over the last, you know,

47:30 two years that Jose was just going to come firing in and wouldn't you know it? 13 seconds into the

47:35 fight. That's exactly what Jose Aldo does. He comes running in and Connor just steps back,

47:40 hits him with that straight left lights out boom boom. So yeah, man, I love watching mixed martial

47:45 arts. It's one of my favorite things to watch. So but yeah, really cool to answer all those

47:49 questions. Next question. I love to watch the UFC. Am I saved? Okay. So all right. So I guess I

47:55 should have seen that one coming. Okay, here's the thing with the UFC, right? Because I know some

47:58 people, I don't really know many of them personally that they don't watch the UFC because, you know,

48:04 it's celebrating violence and it's anti-Christian. And this is just kind of what they believe. But

48:08 it's a sport. Okay. The UFC mixed martial arts is a sport. All right. So whether you watch Bellator

48:16 or, you know, rising or whatever you watch, it's a sport. And it's much like any other contact sport.

48:21 Right. So think rugby, think football, think anything else. But here's the thing that I think

48:26 that you should worry about here. If you're about to watch a sport of some kind, like a contact sport,

48:31 a violent sport, especially fighting, is are you watching it with a gospel centered heart?

48:36 Now let me explain what I mean by that. Are you watching a fight between two fighters?

48:42 And are you watching it because you want to watch two extremely skilled martial arts athletes

48:50 compete against one another? Are you watching it because you want to see blood and you're hoping

48:55 someone gets hurt? Right. And I don't mean like a not KO, but like hurt. You want to see someone

48:59 really get hurt. So the thing is, is if you're wanting to watch it for the sport of it, I don't

49:04 think there's any problem with that whatsoever. But if you're watching it because you really

49:07 want to see some guy get hurt, I think there's some there's some major issues with your understanding

49:11 of the gospel and whether or not the Holy Spirit is actually working within your heart. Okay. So

49:16 easiest, easiest way to answer that one. Next question. How does one mitigate the perfectionist

49:20 nature to all areas of one's endeavors? There is an opportunity cost to all pursuits. And at what

49:26 point does one's pursuit of excellence in all areas degrade the ability to gain success in all

49:31 other areas? I think that's a fantastic question. Really, really good question. So here's the thing

49:35 is I'm a perfectionist in a lot of ways, but not in a bunch of areas that don't matter.

49:40 So I mean, let's go back to the goal setting episode. I think that was episode three of this

49:44 podcast. All goals, in my opinion, should be stretch goals and worth it goals. And if you

49:49 want to know what I mean by that, go back and listen to that podcast. It's a quick one. But all of

49:53 your goals should be things that would cause you to stretch yourself out. And also those goals

49:59 should be worth it. And that's cyclical, right? Because if a goal is worth it, it's going to stretch

50:03 you. And if you're being stretched by a goal, it's probably worth it, right? It just kind of goes

50:06 in that nature. But you know, you kind of have to look at this through the prism of how it affects

50:11 your discipleship with Jesus. And then also, I would say your relationship with your wife and

50:15 the parenting of your children. So again, I'm going to pick it on again. I pretty much do every

50:19 week. If getting better at fantasy football does not make you a better disciple of Christ,

50:23 a better husband or a better father, do not spend a whole lot of time on that.

50:27 I'm not saying don't do it. All right. So plug in anything. If it's, if it's fortnight, if it's,

50:33 you know, church league softball, if it's, you know, whatever the thing is that you're into,

50:38 or, you know, practicing an instrument, whatever it is, if it's not helping you be a better

50:43 disciple of Christ, a better husband or a better father, perhaps perfectionism is not the greatest

50:47 thing that you, you should use. That should not be your standard for that thing, I guess.

50:51 Because there is an opportunity cost. I love how you worded that in the question.

50:54 There is an opportunity cost to all pursuits. And so what are you giving up to try and learn,

51:00 you know, the, the solo from inner sandman? Now, you are, you know, I know a guy, you know,

51:06 I love this guy, but he spent an unbelievable amount of time trying to get the fast part

51:11 of the Eminem song wrap God memorized. Because there's like one part of the song where he just

51:15 goes like unbelievably fast, he spent a lot of time memorizing that. And it's like, this dude's

51:20 married with a kid and has a job. So I do that's a lot of time spent on something pretty stupid,

51:26 like something that you're going to like recite at a party sometime. So just think about it. Like,

51:31 if it's not helping you be better in those really, really important areas, should you give

51:35 perfectionism? Should you give that much effort? Because here's the thing, guys, in a lot of ways,

51:39 you've heard some people say things like this, it's like get something about 85 to 90% ready and

51:43 just send it out the door. I mean, that's what I did with this podcast. The first one that I recorded,

51:48 I recorded it thinking I would release it in three or four weeks, I ended up releasing it that day.

51:52 I'm like, I know, let's just see how this goes. You know, I don't know if this is going to sound

51:56 good. I don't know if people are going to like it, but let's just kind of throw it out there.

51:59 I got an 80 to 85 to 90% of the way there. And it's like, you know, let's just see people like it.

52:03 People ended up liking it. Next question. I know that you love baseball and mixed martial arts. But

52:08 if you could only watch one sport for the rest of your life, and it couldn't be either of those,

52:12 what would it be and why? Okay. So yes, the majority of what I watch is baseball and mixed martial

52:16 arts. But this is actually really easy one. If I could only watch one sport and it couldn't be one

52:20 of those, it would be college football. So I like the NBA. I'm a big Thunder fan. I like watching

52:25 some international soccer. You know, I like watching rugby, you know, different things like that.

52:29 Not a huge fan of the NFL, but college football is so much fun to watch. And the cool thing is,

52:35 is I don't live and die with any team. I mean, I live in Oklahoma, but I didn't go to OU and I

52:39 didn't go to Oklahoma State. And so it's kind of weird to me that people that didn't go to those

52:43 colleges, they like literally lose their minds when their team, when that team wins or loses,

52:48 it's just kind of weird to me. But that's just personal preference. But you know, I don't really

52:51 live and die with any team. I just want to watch good games. And that's the thing with college

52:55 football is like every single Saturday, there's like two or three games that you just cannot miss.

53:00 And I remember when I used to watch the NFL a lot, it was like, I feel like I would go,

53:04 you know, two or three weeks without there being even one game that you couldn't miss.

53:09 I get to be like, Oh, okay, there's finally a Sunday night game worth watching. But you know,

53:12 for the most part, all the other games are just pretty boring. But that's the thing with college

53:16 football is it's just it's incredible watching the things that these kids can do. It's fun watching

53:20 their traditions of what's happening in the stands and all those different things. But yeah,

53:24 that's a lot of fun to watch. Next question. How do you know when you become a man?

53:28 Okay, I think the first thing is, and you know, we obviously have talked about this a lot,

53:32 is when you're initiated into it, something that we as Americans don't do very well,

53:36 we don't initiate boys into manhood very well. But then also, I guess I would say this to a young

53:40 man, it's whenever you fully understand and have taken on the challenge of what our mantra here

53:46 at Undaunted Life is for manhood and our definition of manhood. And that's a guy that

53:51 cultivates spiritual, mental and physical resilience daily. Because I think if you're a seven year old,

53:57 you're not really going to understand that. Now, I think you should talk to a seven year old boy

54:01 about what that means to be spiritually mentally and physically resilient. But you got to kind of

54:05 be of a certain age to where you're like, okay, I understand that fully. I can wrap my head around

54:11 it. And I'm going to do it. So that's kind of the difference there. And so that, but the really is,

54:17 when you know that you become a man, I don't think it's the first time you have sex. I don't

54:21 think it's whenever you turn 18, I don't think it's when you get your driver's license. I don't

54:23 think it was when you move out, it's contextual to the guy. So for me, I kind of matured a little

54:29 bit earlier, whereas I felt like I still had some friends that took them three or four years before

54:34 they stopped making really, really stupid decisions. But some people, they mature a little earlier,

54:37 they mature a little later. Some guys, you know, they lose their father, they lose their mother,

54:42 something at a young age, and they kind of have to grow up really, really early. You know, it

54:46 just changes for each individual guy. But yeah, if you kind of embrace our model of manhood,

54:50 I think that that's a that's a good way to kind of look at that. Next question. Christian

54:55 masculinity is toxic and breeds rape culture and abused women thoughts. Okay, so I think this the

55:01 core of this question is about toxic masculinity. And you know what actually I'm going to save my

55:08 answer on this question for a future podcast. So I've had a lot of people ask me to talk about

55:12 toxic masculinity, because that's like the favorite phrase you see thrown around by people. A lot of

55:16 the third way feminists talking about a lot of people that are hyper liberal talk about, you know,

55:20 toxic masculinity. So I'm going to do like an epic podcast someday, you know, hopefully soon

55:25 about toxic masculinity. So you know, there's been some podcasts that I've done that I've spent

55:29 a lot of time on. So like the abortion one, the one the one about guns and the reality of evil,

55:34 the pussies and the pews, those are episodes that I spent a lot of time making sure that my

55:38 philosophy on things were sound. And then I could present it in a way that would be palatable for

55:42 most guys. I think toxic masculinity might be that next one that I'll take on, because I want to

55:47 give a full accounting of kind of what people have heard, what people have said, why they're

55:52 saying it, where that comes from, whether it's real or not, you know, spoiler alerts, not. But,

55:57 you know, just basically kind of lay that out there and look out at even through the prism of the

56:01 gospel and how that works. Next question, how do we make a Christ centered life appealing to the

56:07 rough manly men of the world? So that's a great question. I think the first of all is you have to

56:12 model it to them. All right, you know, you have to invite them into that a Christ centered life,

56:17 because I talk about this all the time. For a lot of manly men, they walk into church and they feel

56:22 like, all right, well, considering what I'm seeing around me right now, I have two options. One,

56:27 I can be a Christian or two, I can be a man. And I'm not saying that's right. I'm saying that's

56:31 what they think. And so we're losing people, people are, you know, not coming to church,

56:36 they're not, you know, more importantly, coming to Christ, because they look at some of those

56:38 followers and they're like, God, these guys are such pansies. I don't want to be anywhere near these

56:42 dudes. But the thing is we have to create environments that speak to these guys and then actually speak

56:47 to them. So we've heard a lot about these kind of more new new age churches, you know, the churches

56:53 that are, you know, less traditional and things like that. And they've created the environments

56:58 for men, but then they don't speak to them. So you have a man that is attracted to an environment,

57:03 they walk into a building and it's like exposed beams and wood and metal. And you know, it's just

57:08 like, it's more inviting to them. And then they go in and sit down and basically the pastor's just

57:12 talking to the chicks. It's like, dude, speak to them. They're here. Like, those are the guys

57:17 that are going to go home and work the gospel out within their family. Speak to them. And here's the

57:22 thing is you have to appeal to our definition of manhood. And I'm talking about on Dante life here,

57:27 again, I'll bring it up. It's a guy that cultivates spiritual, mental and physical resilience daily.

57:31 But the thing is, is moon making a Christ centered life appealing to a rough and tumble manly man.

57:37 The most important thing is you have to talk about the lion of Judah with the lamb of God.

57:41 I talk about this all the time, all the time, all the time. You have to talk about both.

57:45 And the thing is, is you get the privilege of being able to focus on the lion of Judah,

57:52 because no one else does. Like every church, every podcast, everything you're looking at,

57:57 it's all this, it's just lamb of God. And I'm not saying the lamb of God's not important. I'll say

58:01 a billion times more. He's incredibly important. But when you look at Jesus as only the lamb of God,

58:06 you are getting an incomplete view of who this guy is. You have to go to the lamb of the lion of

58:12 Judah, the lamb of God in the lion of Judah is the same thing. They're, they're, they're interwoven

58:17 into the same person of Jesus. Okay. And we have to make that clear. All right. Next question.

58:22 If you had a blank check to create a startup company, what type of company would you start?

58:27 Okay. That's kind of an interesting one. That's kind of got me on my heels a little bit. Um,

58:32 I guess, you know, the easy question would be just pouring all that money into a ministry like

58:37 Undaunted. But, um, I think what I would probably do is, you know, since I'm just kind of off the

58:44 top of my head here, I would probably start a men's ministry consulting firm. I kind of sounds

58:51 cool. That's okay. Uh, you would like basically go to churches that don't have men's ministries

58:56 that are robust and thriving, which is essentially all of them. And you would basically try to help

59:02 these churches establish full on men's ministries and things that would allow men to be attracted

59:08 to that church to stay there and also to have a tremendous impact within the church,

59:13 then within their families, and then within the overall community. So I think most churches

59:17 don't have the foggiest idea how to do that. I mean, I talk about all the time, you have

59:20 these churches where they have a men's ministry pastor quote unquote, but that's the like seventh

59:26 title on this person's title is that they also do men's ministry, which essentially means they

59:31 throw a men's event once or twice a year and call it good, which is not men's ministry.

59:36 That's event planning. And so that's probably what I'd do to be honest, if I had a blank check

59:40 to just start a startup company, I'm not trying to invent snuggie 2.0. I'm not trying to, you know,

59:44 be on a shark tank. I'd probably do something like that because I think the impact that I could

59:48 have, uh, in the United States, uh, in the American church and for the kingdom of God would be tremendous.

59:53 All right. Next question. What are your thoughts on anabolic steroid use with professional athletes

59:58 and just regular dudes? Okay. Uh, here's my thing about anabolic steroids. I think you should stay

1:00:03 away from them entirely. Um, I think the, the, um, the health concerns are very clear about what

1:00:09 anabolic steroid abuse does to you, uh, about what it, uh, does to your heart, what it does to your

1:00:14 brain, what it does to your body overall, how it makes you susceptible to cancer, tearing tendons,

1:00:18 all those different things. If you don't know about those things, you should. Um, but the thing

1:00:22 in terms of professional athletes, I think it's one of the worst thing you can do is cheat in your

1:00:27 sport. I think it's one of the worst things that you can do. And so again, my favorite sports are

1:00:30 mixed martial arts and baseball. You know, before you saw it, it came into the UFC, these dudes were

1:00:34 ripped out of their minds. I mean, look at Alastair over him. Look at, uh, V tour bell for before

1:00:40 you saw it and then look at him and after, look at a guy like Johnny Hendricks. This guy doesn't miss,

1:00:45 miss weight his entire life as a wrestler or as a UFC fighter. And then all of a sudden, you saw

1:00:48 it comes in the dude can't make weight anymore. And so again, there's not evidence I'm not, you know,

1:00:52 Johnny Hendricks fans out there. Don't tweet me. Don't at me because I called your boy out.

1:00:56 But there's so many of these guys that were abusing steroids. And then you go into baseball,

1:01:00 Mark Maguire, the guy who stole my childhood from me basically by lying and stealing and cheating,

1:01:06 Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Andy Pettit, Raphael Palmero, like all, all these guys

1:01:11 that cheated. I think that's so unbelievably terrible because I just think about the guys,

1:01:16 and I know a lot of my friends are like, I don't give a crap, let them take whatever they want. You

1:01:19 know, we're watching for entertainment purposes anyway. But what if you're the dude that's just a

1:01:22 really, really good baseball player and you're unwilling to risk your life and your health and

1:01:27 your safety and, you know, leave your wife without a husband, your kids without a father,

1:01:31 because you don't want to take these steroids. But then all the other guys are doing it, right?

1:01:36 And so you're just as talented. You, you make it more playing time or a better contract than

1:01:40 these guys, but you're left between a rock and a hard place of, well, if I take these steroids,

1:01:44 I'll probably die. But I'll probably be able to get a bigger contract or I don't take it and I may

1:01:50 get cut in double A, right? You know, it's just kind of one of those things. So I'm very vehemently

1:01:55 against those anabolic performance enhancers because I got some friends that are kind of piffy

1:01:59 from time to time. They're like, well, you're so concerned about performance enhancers, but

1:02:03 you don't have any problem with guys wearing glasses or contact lenses or good cleats. And I

1:02:08 was like, okay, if you break down performance enhancer, that phrase, if you break that down

1:02:13 literally, yes, someone wearing eye black as a performance enhancer, someone having a good

1:02:19 cutsman in their corner, that's an enhancer, right? If you have a team that has, you know,

1:02:24 good microphone system in the in the player's helmet, so the quarterback in here, the play is

1:02:27 easier. That is a performance enhancer. Those things enhance the performance. But those things

1:02:32 are legal. And everyone can do them. So if any guy in a major league baseball has eye issues,

1:02:37 every, all of them can wear contacts. Every single one of them can do it. But not every

1:02:42 pitcher can put pine tar on the inside of their glove so they can get a better grip on the baseball.

1:02:46 That's illegal. So if it's an illegal performance enhancer, no, it should not be used. And the thing

1:02:51 about it is is I'm realistic. I know that in a lot of these sports, the the guys making the

1:02:57 steroids are they're so far ahead of the tests that in a lot of sports, guys are still cheating.

1:03:02 Like the idea that people aren't still cheating in baseball is ridiculous. They're obviously guys

1:03:06 that get popped every year. Guys get popped all the time within mixed martial arts. And you know,

1:03:10 HGH and football and different things like that. But in terms of the regular dude,

1:03:15 I would just ask somebody that wants to take analog steroids. What are you doing that for?

1:03:18 Do you need analog steroids to have physical resilience? Or is it just because you want to

1:03:24 look better in a t-shirt? You want your tribal arm band to be popping out of your, you know,

1:03:29 your biceps underneath your, your short sleeve t-shirt? You know, you want your traps to be up

1:03:33 near your, your, your, your lobes or whatever. Is that really helping you be healthy overall?

1:03:39 Like that's the thing I would tell these people is, and I'm not hating on power lifters. I do it

1:03:42 myself. But like these guys that just want to be jacked out of their mind gigantic. I just wonder

1:03:46 why it's like for you. It's not about health at that point. It's about vanity. You just want to

1:03:52 look like a giant. You want people to walk by and be like, Oh gosh, I don't want to mess with that

1:03:55 guy. Like that's the reason why you're doing it. Like, so look at your heart, look at, look at your

1:03:59 brain, see what you're trying to do. Like, why would you do that? I don't see a use outside of the

1:04:04 realm of, you know, medical doctor prescribing it to you for anti box steroid use of any kind.

1:04:09 Don't see it. All right, guys, last question here. The World Cup is going on right now. Yes,

1:04:12 it is. But the US is not in it, sadly. With that, are you still watching? Are you rooting for

1:04:18 another country? And who do you think is going to win? Okay, so yeah, I'm super disappointed the

1:04:22 United States not make it, especially since they got eliminated from World Cup, you know,

1:04:27 qualifying basically by losing the Trinidad and Tobago, which is ridiculous. I am not watching

1:04:33 that much. I mean, I'll catch a little bit here and there. Most of the games are on in the morning,

1:04:37 so I'm not really able to catch them. In terms of a country I'm rooting for, I'm rooting for Iceland

1:04:42 because, you know, my motherland of Ireland is not in it. As far as I know, Choctaw Indians do not

1:04:46 have a team in the World Cup. So I can't root for them. So but my Jiu Jitsu nickname is Viking. So I

1:04:51 figured I'd go with Iceland and they have the coolest chant that they do before and after their

1:04:55 games. But as it sits right now, if you're as of the recording of this podcast, it doesn't look great

1:05:01 that Iceland is going to be moving on past the group stage. So hopefully that changes because

1:05:06 they've they played two matches and hopefully something goes better than that last match and

1:05:09 they get a W. But we'll just kind of have to see. But in terms of who I think is going to win,

1:05:13 I did predictions before the entire World Cup and I put down Germany as I thought that they

1:05:19 were going to repeat as World Cup champions. So they have not looked great. It looks better for

1:05:24 them getting through to the round of 16. But again, you know, that was who I picked before the tournament.

1:05:30 If I'm looking at the teams right now, the teams that look the best. I mean, Spain and Portugal

1:05:35 look pretty fantastic. I mean, I don't really believe that Russia or England are going to

1:05:38 continue to do well. But you know, we'll see. As as it gets, you know, some of the other countries

1:05:43 kind of weeded out there, I'll probably pay a little bit more attention and watch some of the

1:05:46 bigger games, you know, once it gets down to the quarter finals, semi finals, that kind of thing.

1:05:50 But that's kind of all I'm going to right now. All right, guys, let's do a quick resilience boost

1:05:54 before I let you guys out of here. As you know, by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission

1:05:57 is cultivating mainly resilience. And specifically, we do that by providing content that for just

1:06:02 spiritual, mental and physical toughness. So today, we're going to do spiritual, mental and physical,

1:06:07 okay? And so you can use this in a bunch of different ways. So I'm actually going to do

1:06:10 something I haven't done before. I'm going to refer an album to you. So the band impending

1:06:15 doom just released their latest album, it's called the sin and doom volume two. And so the reason why

1:06:21 this is spiritual, mental and physical is because this is a legitimate Christian metal band. And

1:06:28 there's a lot of bands that claim to be Christian that are just basically collecting checks from

1:06:32 churches to do concerts, as opposed to bars. I'm sure we'll talk about that more later. But these

1:06:36 guys are legitimate gospel centered Christians. From the mental side, great lyrical content. It's

1:06:44 an incredibly aggressive style. So if you're used to Hillsong, and then you go to impending doom,

1:06:49 it's going to scare you a little bit, fair warning. But this is one of those things for physical

1:06:54 resilience. If you put this on why you're working out or why you're rolling or something like that,

1:06:57 it's pretty substantial what it can do to you. I know when I ride listen to impending doom and

1:07:01 bands like it, it's pretty pretty crazy what you can end up doing with your body at those times. But

1:07:06 just give it a chance, like give this band a chance, because you may not be able to get past

1:07:10 the aggressive music and surely the aggressive vocals. But when I think about worship music,

1:07:16 my brain does not automatically go to Hillsong or Bethel music or Phil Wickham or Shane Shane,

1:07:20 and I like some of the things that those people do. But it goes to bands like impending doom and

1:07:26 like for today and things like that. Because there's a lyric in a song on the new record in the song

1:07:31 is called Devil's Den. And the lyric exists. It's a short one, but it says, I stand at the gates of

1:07:35 your hell and bring the power of Almighty God. So it's just a very aggressive thing. Because here's

1:07:42 the thing about Satan, Satan owns nothing. He's a he's a squatter. I guess would be the way I've

1:07:48 heard someone say that before, like Satan's a squatter, demons are squatters, they own nothing,

1:07:52 they own no real estate. They only own as much area as you give them to operate. And so I like

1:07:58 songs that sing about the glory and the strength and power of God. But I also like songs where we

1:08:04 talk about how aggressive we can be towards Satan, because he is worthless. And as Christians, we have

1:08:10 the power of Christ behind us to be able to take on someone, you know, in the entity of Satan or his

1:08:15 minions and his demons. And we can do those things. And so I don't get fired up to fight in the

1:08:19 spiritual realm when I'm listening to Kerry Job, not hating on Kerry Job, doesn't get me fired up

1:08:25 the same way. But when you listen to a band like this, it definitely gets you going. So thank you

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1:09:42 I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Remember, keep cultivating manly resilience,

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