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This is a daunting life of man's podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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All right, guys.
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Today, we are going to talk about the big news that came down this week, and this was
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the Supreme Court decision in the case called Masterpiece Cake Shop versus Colorado Civil
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Rights Commission.
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This was something that came down on Monday of this week, so if you're listening to this
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on time, it came down on Monday.
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It was kind of a surprise decision.
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No one knew that it was exactly going to be coming out on that date.
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There's a lot of things that are on the Supreme Court docket right now, but that was just
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something that we weren't assuming was going to come out then.
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A little bit of a surprise.
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To be honest, for me personally, I've been thinking about this case in particular really
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since it was going to be coming to the Supreme Court.
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I knew in 2016 that there was a thought that this would come to the Supreme Court, but
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it was announced in 2017 that the Supreme Court would hear it during the 2017 term.
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The thing is, I feel like this was going to be a big deal.
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I know a lot of people, some of them very intimately and personally, that work in the
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wedding industry as vendors.
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It's like, how is this going to affect them directly?
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Was it going to be a wide enough decision?
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What was it going to be?
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Here's the thing is the whole attitude the entire time was that this was probably not
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going to break the way of the religious baker in Colorado.
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I mean, we've heard of several different stories around the United States of different
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bakers and different vendors that have basically been run out of business by people that were
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trying to make an example out of them for expressing their religious beliefs.
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And let's be honest, these are Christian beliefs.
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No one's going into a Muslim bakery and asking them to make a gay wedding cake.
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It's only these Christian bakers and things like that.
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But the thing is, is the Supreme Court came back and surprisingly, definitely to me and
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to a lot of people, voted seven to two in favor of masterpiece rather, cake shop in Colorado.
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And this was such a big deal, it seemed like.
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I remember thinking to myself, I was so surprised and so happy that it broke this way and it
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really felt like a big time win for religious liberty and expression in the United States.
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But, but was it really and the more I kind of dug in, I kind of had to reconcile that
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question and figure it out.
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But before we go there, I want to just have us back up and take a look at the background
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of this case because I don't want to assume that any of you know, you know, all the different
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details.
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I want to just basically give you a rundown here.
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So essentially in 2012, there was a gay couple.
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This was Charlie Craig and David Mullins and these people planned on getting married in
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the state of Massachusetts because it was legal in 2012 to do so.
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But they were going to come back to their home state of residence, which was in Colorado.
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And so what they wanted to do when they got back to Colorado is they wanted to basically
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do a celebration with their loved ones of the fact that they got married.
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And so at the time in Colorado, gay marriage was not legal.
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Okay.
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So the state of Colorado actually decided to allow gay marriage in 2014.
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And then the infamous Oberfeld versus Hodges Supreme Court decision in 2015 mandated that
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gay marriage become legal.
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It's infamous because the Supreme Court is not supposed to make law.
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It's only supposed to affirm what the constitutionality of a particular law is, but they basically
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made a law out of thin air, but that's not what today's podcast is about.
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But this gay couple, they went to the masterpiece cake shop in Lakewood, Colorado.
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This was in July of 2012.
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And they went there to order a custom wedding cake for their celebration whenever they got
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home to celebrate with all their friends and family.
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The shop owner is a guy named Jack Phillips and he actually declined to make them a custom
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wedding cake because for him as a Christian, he felt that doing so was would violate his
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Christian beliefs.
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So basically what Phillips offered to do was to sell them anything else in the store,
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including a blank cake.
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They could buy anything else in the store, but he would just not lend his God given skills
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and talents to a ceremony that was celebrating something that he considered sinful.
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So obviously seems like a fairly reasonable thing for him to do.
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But there's a lost detail here that whenever I've heard different people describe this
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story on both sides of the issue, it seems like this detail gets lost in this.
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But another bakery in that town made this couple a cake for their ceremony.
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Like they were able to find another cake shop.
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That's always kind of the argument here is whenever it's a cake baker or some sort of
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other vendor, it's there's not only one in these towns.
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Like there there's clearly other people that can make these cakes, but it's just never
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good enough for these people that they have to make an example of them.
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And especially making an example of a Christian baker is something that they can definitely
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go for.
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So basically what this couple did is they filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights
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Commission and it was under the state's public accommodations law.
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So this was their anti-discrimination act, which basically doesn't allow for public businesses
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like this cake shop to discriminate against their customers on the basis of race, religion,
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gender or sexual orientation.
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So the complaint though morphed into a lawsuit, which a lot of these things do, especially
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whenever they start getting outside sources and funds and interests and things like that.
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So it morphed into a lawsuit Craig versus masterpiece cake shop.
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And the judge actually ruled in favor of Craig, which was going to force masterpiece cake
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shop to provide cakes for same-sex marriages.
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And this is pretty amazing.
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This is a quote from the decision, this was something else that the decision handed down
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and it was this quote, change its company's policies, provide comprehensive staff training
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regarding public accommodations, discrimination, and provide quarterly reports for the next
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two years regarding steps it has taken to come into compliance and whether it has turned
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away any perspective customers, unquote.
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Pretty amazing marks of stuff going on right there, no big deal moving on, but basically
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masterpiece cake shop, they refused to comply with Colorado's orders.
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They refused to comply with the state's orders.
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And so basically what they did is they removed themselves entirely from the wedding cake
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business.
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So they weren't doing custom wedding cakes, which if you know anything about these bakeries
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and how expensive these custom cakes can be, that is a huge source of revenue, right?
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And so this severely damaged their business and it almost cost them their business entirely.
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So what happened was is the the cake shop, they appealed the decision in the appeal,
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the ACLU represented Craig and Mullins because of course they did.
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And the appellate court also ruled in favor of the plaintiffs.
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So nothing changed.
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The Colorado Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal of the case because of course they
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did.
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In 2016 though, masterpiece cake shop petitioned the US Supreme Court for review of the following
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question.
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So this was the question.
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Whether applying Colorado's public accommodations law to compel Phillips to create expression
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that violates his sincerely held religious beliefs about marriage violates the free speech
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or free exercise clauses of the first amendment.
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So this is really, really important.
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So I'm going to go ahead and read it again because this was basically what the Supreme
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Court was trying to deal with.
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Quote, whether applying Colorado's public accommodations law to compel Phillips to create expression
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that violates his sincerely held religious beliefs about marriage, violates the free
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speech or free exercise clauses of the first amendment, unquote.
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So basically that's what they petitioned.
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And if you petition the Supreme Court, obviously that doesn't mean they have to hear the case,
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but the court actually agreed to hear the case during the 2017 term and the oral arguments
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were heard on December 5th of 2017.
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So as we said earlier, the decision came down and it was seven to two in favor of masterpiece
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cake shop.
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So they overturned the previous decisions.
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And so the judges that voted in favor were Chief Justice John Roberts and then also Anthony
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Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Stephen Breyer, Elena Kagan and Neil Gorsuch, who's
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the newest member of the Supreme Court.
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And Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion and the only dissenting opinions and
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votes were from Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor, because of course they did.
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That was incredibly predictable that they were going to vote that way.
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But again, this was still a fairly surprising decision.
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And so immediately after they got done with this, the people that are on the ride and the
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people that are on the left, they immediately went to their sides and basically expressed
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their glee or their disappointment.
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So in terms of what people on the right said, I'll kind of go to a little bit of what was
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said on Twitter.
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So yeah, Donald Trump, all he said was Brent big Supreme Court ruling for Baker just out.
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Like that's pretty much all he was doing is basically like pointing his big fat finger
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and being like, yeah, look over there, so being Trump Ted Cruz.
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So Texas Center, he said this today's Supreme Court decision upholding a Colorado Baker's
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constitutional right to live according to his faith is a major victory for religious
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liberty.
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The fact that the decision was seven to two, not a narrow five to four underscores that
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government should never discriminate against religious faith.
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So that was what Ted Cruz said.
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And again, what a lot of people thought it was going to be is, you know, they thought
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this was going to be a five to four decision.
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And a lot of people were predicting it that it was going to be five to four uphold, upholding
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basically what the appellate courts had decided.
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So Dave Rubin.
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So if you know anything about him, he's got like a YouTube talk show, but this was a guide
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that used to be a liberal.
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He's an openly gay guy, but now he considers himself more so on the right.
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He's he's part of the intellectual dark web considers himself a classical liberal.
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Anyway, basically, this is what he said on Twitter, quote, a win for personal freedom.
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The government shouldn't be able to tell private citizen business what services they
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provide.
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Unquote.
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And then Oklahoma Senator James Langford, who is my senator, he said this, quote, the
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masterpiece cake shop, Supreme Court of the United States decision affirms that the free
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exercise of religion is more than freedom of worship.
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It's the right to live a faith in a free society.
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We can disagree on marriage, honor, dignity of all persons and respect diverse views.
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Unquote.
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So that's basically some of the people on the right.
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We got a lot of the same thing.
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So we had pastors tweeting, we had different people, you know, in politics, making sure
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that they tweeted so that they can go back and take a look at that.
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So that was all pretty predictable.
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And then we still had some of the fairly predictable outrage on the political left.
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So let's look at that.
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So the excreable Nancy Pelosi, who is still somehow alive and still kicking in the United
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States house, she is obviously the house minority leader.
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This is what she had to say, quote, the right to be free from persecution and discrimination
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because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American.
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The Supreme Court's masterpiece cake shop decision fails to uphold equality.
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Then we have Kirsten Gillibrand, she is an up and coming Democrat who is probably looking
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to make a move in 2020 against Trump, probably to run against him.
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She said this, quote, harmful and disappointing ruling from the Supreme Court this morning.
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Companies shouldn't discriminate against members of our community because of who they love
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and who they are.
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Period, unquote, but then kind of one of the most ridiculous things that I saw out there
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and he's not really taking enough heat for this.
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And this is Seth McFarland.
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So obviously the creator of the once funny show Family Guy and some other movies that
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did absolutely terrible.
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He came out and he he didn't just do a tweet because apparently he couldn't get all that
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he needed in in the 280 characters.
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So he typed up a little note on his phone and he shared this.
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So let's go ahead and share it here, quote.
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Here's one of the many problems with Monday's myopic Supreme Court ruling on religious freedom.
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It's a shorter walk than we think, particularly today from I won't bake them a cake because
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they're gay to I won't seat them here because he's black.
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Those who balk at the comparison may wish to remind themselves that religion was deployed
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to justify far worse treatment not so very long ago.
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Freedom of and freedom from religion is a fundamental right that must never be impinged.
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However, only a fool would ignore the reality that religion can be and often has been used
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to absolve any number of unjust enterprises.
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As the saying goes, you're right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.
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And in this case, the nose is a penis.
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So I don't know if that last thing at the end was supposed to be funny, but it obviously
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didn't ring as funny.
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But it's really, really absurd behavior for him to basically compare the fact that black
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people were treated differently.
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He's obviously making reference to Jim Crow laws and different things like that, comparing
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that to what this religious baker is doing.
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And obviously Seck McFarland, he's a fairly outspoken atheist.
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So this is really not the least bit surprising at all that we would hear something like that
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from a guy like him.
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But even the Associated Press was kind of talking about different things.
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And of course, they're just supposed to be neutral news.
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But in the era of modern news, we can never assume news is neutral.
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But I found this to be really, really shocking when I first saw this.
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So when I was first looking at the fact that the decision had been handed down, I get updates
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from breaking news and the Associated Press and Fox News and different things and a lot
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of people on Twitter.
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But this was the headline that the Associated Press ran, quote, breaking Supreme Court rules
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narrowly for Colorado Baker who wouldn't make same sex wedding cake, unquote.
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And I'm thinking to myself narrowly, you're thinking five to four, because that says narrow
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as it could possibly get with a Supreme Court ruling.
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But seven to two is not narrow, like you don't get a whole lot of decisions with a court that's
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fairly evenly split with liberals and conservatives.
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You don't get seven to two on just about anything.
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But I'm going to give the AP the benefit of the doubt, not just call them straight up,
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you know, hashtag fake news at this point.
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Because I think the word narrowly was used here, not necessarily to describe the difference
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in votes of seven to two, which is obviously not narrow.
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But they did that in order to describe what this decision actually meant for religious
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liberty.
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So let's get into what it really means for religious liberty.
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And upon further reflection and also doing a little bit more research, I don't know that
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this reaches as far as we all wish that it would and hope that it would.
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So basically the skinny is, is that the Supreme Court didn't touch on really the core first
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amendment amendment issue that was at hand.
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And that was whether there is a religious exemption for artists, you know, in general,
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in a general sense, under the clause that protects free exercise, right?
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So it was a large majority decision, but it was fairly narrow in its scope.
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It was not a broad decision.
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Now, now I remember my, my initial reaction was this is so big for religious freedom.
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I thought we were, you know, going off the deep end and going to fall off the edge of
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the clip, but you know, maybe we're going to, we're going to write the ship and Christendom
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isn't going to be completely out of the public square.
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But you know, I don't know that this really changes a lot because it doesn't cover a multitude
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of service providers.
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So let's look at other wedding vendors.
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So let's look at caterers and people that rent out tables and chairs and photographers
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and DJs and different things like that.
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These individuals can't necessarily use this ruling, this Supreme Court ruling in their
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case as their basis to stick by their religious guns.
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So, so if a DJ says, Hey, you know what, I, I'm not going to be able to give my services
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as a DJ to you guys because it affects my religious beliefs of any kind, that's this
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case really can't be used as kind of a jurisprudence for future cases.
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And so it's just very, very narrow that this case really doesn't even define that religious
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people can act religiously in their businesses.
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And I think that's probably the biggest thing that came from this case was not what it decided
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but what it actually didn't decide.
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Like it really didn't look at religious people and say, yes, you can act religiously within
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your business.
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And basically they ruled that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission acted rudely and unfairly
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to the masterpiece cake shop owner, Phillips, you know, he's a religious guy and they said
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that the Civil Rights Commission just acted mean to them.
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They were rude.
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So just as Kennedy who wrote the majority opinion, he specifically cited and you can
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read the decision online.
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I'm actually going to provide the link for you here in a bit.
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But he cited the fact that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission acted with hostility as kind
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of the main reason why they overturned the case.
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Right?
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And that's kind of ridiculous.
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Like you're telling me that the Supreme Court had to make a decision on somebody being mean
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and rude to somebody else?
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Like is that really everything that was decided?
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It was just a little bit weird.
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They just really kind of ringed hollow to me, I guess.
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And so basically what they decided in this case was not that, you know, a religious person
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could act religiously and do things within their religious freedoms and express themselves
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in that way.
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But it was that basically you can't be mean to religious people that are expressing their
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religious beliefs.
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Which I guess that's nice.
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I mean, it's just like, all right, I guess the Supreme Court's got, you know, a stake
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in the fact that someone might be mean to me at some point for saying that I love Jesus
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or that I think homosexuality is a sin.
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But again, it just didn't go that far.
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So I can say it's a little bit of a buzzkill in my initial level of excitement, you know,
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coupled with the amount of, you know, the level of anxiety that I carried about this
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and just wondering about where we're going as a culture and thinking how we as an undaunted
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life could really help men as we go into this new era of culture.
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But the thing that it really means for us guys is that the culture war rages on.
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That's essentially what this means is that there is going to be a continued war against
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religion.
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And that's going to rage on.
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But, but again, let's be real here.
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The wars against Christianity, that's the war that's raging on.
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Like no one's picking on Buddhists that own businesses or Sikhs or, you know, militant
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atheists, which is kind of like its own religion, veganism, which is kind of like its own religion.
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No one's picking on these types of people.
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This is exclusively Christians.
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And I would bring this point up again that I brought up earlier this example, but you
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don't really hear stories about people go into Muslim bakeries and asking them to do
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things that are directly against their religion.
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Like hey, can you bake me a cake and sprinkle bacon on top of it?
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Like that would be incredibly rude and insensitive, but at the same time, like you would never
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hear of someone doing something like that, like that, like that just wouldn't happen.
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And here's the other thing.
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The political left has this weird affinity for radical fundamentalist Islam that they
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don't share for even conservative Christianity.
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It's just very interesting.
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And it's something that I want y'all to really, really start to notice if you haven't started
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taking notice of that already.
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I mean, it's such a weird thing that people that align with the political left, they claim
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to be all about science and women's rights and LGBT rights and these different things.
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But they side with, you know, an ideology and a theology that basically allows for the murder
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of gay people.
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There's still countries in the world that will murder you.
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They will execute you if you're gay.
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They won't allow women to do anything.
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I mean, I think I heard just this week, wasn't it that Saudi Arabia or somewhere like was
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just now allowing women to have the right to drive?
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I mean, it's for goodness sakes, it is 2018.
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And so, you know, everyone's talking about progress and where we're going as a country
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and where we're going as a world.
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And we still have stuff like that happen.
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And so I just want you to make sure that this is something that that you are all considering
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and thinking about because this is the world that that we live in and we have to make sure
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that we can operate in this type of a world, you see, and the thing is is here's some things
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that we know about our country is a capitalistic country, at least for now.
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And it's kind of ruled by free markets.
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And in just about every discourse, capitalism and free markets will basically take care of
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things that are outside the pail of culture.
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And so, so what do I mean by that?
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So basically, if you have two flower shops or floors, you see, you have two floors, there
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are opposite sides of the street.
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One says I refuse to serve black people, right?
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In my opinion, I think they have the right to do that.
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Now, now, don't misunderstand me, don't misquote me, follow me along here.
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They have the right to say something like that.
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And I have the right to walk my happy little tale across the street and support the other
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florist with my patronage, right?
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And that's exactly what I would do.
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And I would encourage every single one of my friends to do the exact same thing because
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it's a free market, free country, and it's capitalist.
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So let's say they provide the same types of flowers, the same price, the same level of
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service, except one is not even mildly, but completely blatantly racist.
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Do you realize how fast a company like that would go out of business in 2018?
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It wouldn't take a riot.
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It wouldn't take someone throwing a Molotov cocktail through the front window.
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Like, you would just put it out there on Twitter.
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This is what these people actually believe.
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I mean, I think the same thing happens like when we talk about silencing speakers on
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college campuses and I say things like this and people like lose their minds, but I'm
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like, if a guy representing the KKK wants to come and speak at my alma mater, right?
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Like the grand wizard, the grand dork of the KKK decides he wants to come in and spew his
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garbage. I want to make sure he does that.
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And I want to make sure he has a big microphone and loud speakers because I want to make sure
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everybody can hear his ignorant, stupid, small-minded garbage loudly and clearly so that we can judge
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him in a public forum.
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I would think that the same thing should be afforded to someone of the New Black Panther
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Party or the American Communist Party or someone who is a socialist or a Marxist or any of these
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types of things that could be potentially damaging ideologies that can be spread.
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I think that's important for us to hear that.
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But guys, I want you to be paying attention to what's going to happen here because religious
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liberty in the fight for that did not end on Monday, right?
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There's so many different rights as Americans that are starting to be infringed upon and
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the easiest target, the lowest hanging fruit, is Christians.
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And a lot of that is because we won't fight back.
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But I will encourage you and remind you that when Jesus said to turn the other cheek, he
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was talking about somebody actually just basically saying something mean to you.
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He wasn't actually talking about taking a punch.
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Okay?
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He wouldn't have offered up his other cheek if somebody struck him.
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We can't say that we're that far away from that type of persecution in this country.
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The persecution that's happening in the United States and you've heard me say it before,
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it doesn't even compare, it doesn't even register to what people are experiencing in North Korea,
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in China and parts of sub-Saharan Africa where Boko Haram has a lot of influence.
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It's not even comparable, but with the militancy of people that happen to be on the political
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left and how the neo-Marxist regimes that are kind of popping up, this isn't that crazy
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of a thought.
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
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I'm not wearing a tin foil hat while I'm saying all this, but this is just another case
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that we all need to be aware of and another thing that we need to continue to pay attention
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to because it didn't end on Monday, guys, saying it again, it just didn't end on Monday.
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This is going to come up again.
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It's not going to be a baker the next time and they're not going to be in Colorado,
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but it's going to be some vendor somewhere and it's going to be one of those decisions
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that goes all the way up to the Supreme Court and depending upon how the court is set up
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at that time, it's either going to be good for religious people or it's not.
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And we've got to keep our wits about us, all right?
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So guys before I let you go, we're going to do a quick resilience boost.
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As you know, by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating manly resilience
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and we specifically do that by providing content that for just spiritual, mental and physical
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toughness.
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And today we're going to focus on mental resilience.
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And so what I want to do for you is I'm going to provide you a link to the official Supreme
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Court decision and the opinions for this case, okay?
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So it's about a 60 70 page document and it's all out there on PDF.
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You just basically go to the link and you can look at it.
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And guys, if you haven't read judicial documents or court documents or opinions before, it's
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going to be a little bit funny.
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It's going to be a, it's a little bit, you know, legalese, that type of thing.
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It's fine, but it's, it's interesting.
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It's something that you need to read.
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You need to hear how these justices are thinking and log that in your brain for future decisions.
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And I specifically want to point you to Justice Clarence Thomas, who is a conservative justice
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on the Supreme Court, starting on page 38 of the PDF, a link that I'm going to include
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in the notes here.
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That's the start of his concurring opinion.
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And so he did a concurring opinion with Justice Gorsuch.
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And so that is something that I think you all should read.
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I think it'd be a good benefit for you.
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