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I'm your host Kyle Thompson, let's get into it.
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Have you ever been through something and you don't know what just happened, but you
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know it was something important to go through?
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This is that journey for me.
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Now, guys, that's the opening line from a very, very controversial 2016 documentary
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called the Red Pill.
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So if you haven't heard of this documentary, this is a documentary that was done about
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the men's rights movement.
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So you may have heard that as MRM and you may have heard about what the people within this
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movement are called.
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They're called the MRAs or men's rights activists.
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Now people in the men's rights movement or the men's rights activists, if you are, you're
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if you're not very familiar with all that and to be honest with you, before I watch this
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documentary, I hadn't heard of a lot of these guys, they've kind of been maligned as being
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kind of far, far out there extremists as women haters, but in reality, it's a movement of
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men that are trying to make men's issues heard on a larger scale.
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And even just me saying men's issues, right, you know, you might be thinking yourself,
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like, what in the world does that even mean men's issues?
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But let's go ahead and get in right now to just the name of the documentary.
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So the Red Pill.
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So most of you out there probably watch the movie, The Matrix.
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So we're talking about the very first Matrix movie.
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So if you go back to kind of, you know, Bay, you know, in the very early part of that movie,
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you see one of the main characters Morpheus.
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He's offering the overall main character, Neo two pills.
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He's offering him a blue pill and he's offering him a red pill, right?
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So if he takes the blue pill, he goes back to sleep.
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He wakes up back in the normal world and everything is what it is, right?
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But if he takes the red pill, he stays in Wonderland.
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I guess I think it was the quote that Morpheus said and the scales kind of fall off his eyes
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and the real world is going to be revealed to Neo, right?
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And what this movie is basically talking about is what this documentary is talking about is
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that the blue pill in this world is that men have all the power, right?
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That the patriarchy and everything they're in has complete control over everyone and
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everything, including and to the biggest detriment of women, right?
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But the red pill is something different and that's what this entire documentary goes into
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looking at.
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But this documentary has it's kind of all over the place in terms of whenever you go to see
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what people are saying about it.
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So on one hand, you have people calling it, they've called it poison tasting propaganda
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unreasonable, offensive, unbalanced.
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And even if you look at what the critics say on rotten tomatoes, the critics only give
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it a 29% on rotten tomatoes.
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But on the other side, it's been called eye opening, fascinating, deeply emotional, rich,
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brilliant.
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And it's an 8.4 out of 10 on internet, internet movie database.
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So IMDB.
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And that's really, really high on IMDB.
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It's got 92% liked on Google reviews and on the audience side of rotten tomatoes.
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It's at 91%, right?
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So this, this is an incredible, there's not like a middle road to this documentary.
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You either think it's the worst thing that's ever been made or it's the greatest thing
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ever.
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It's just on both sides.
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So when a lot of times, to be honest with you, before I watch a movie, I will go to
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rotten tomatoes.
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I pretty much completely ignore what the critics say and I just go with what the audience
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score is.
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But you never see a ton of movies where those two scores are completely this far apart,
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right?
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I mean, they're separated by like 60 points on either direction, right?
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So that from the very beginning may be very interested, like what are the critics not
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seeing that the audience is seeing or vice versa?
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But this documentary was made by Cassie J. So Cassie J is a former actress from Hollywood.
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She was kind of pigeonholed in her own estimation as kind of the blonde who always died in
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horror films and stuff like that.
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But she got into acting as a little kid whenever she was really, really shy.
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Her mom made her get into acting and then that kind of led her to go to Hollywood.
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But after just doing having a very short career, rather, she quit acting and became a documentary
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filmmaker.
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So Cassie is a self-described feminist and a lot of her documentaries dealt with things
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that are kind of on the left wing vein of the political realm and discussions, right?
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So she talked about women's issues.
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She talked about gender.
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She talked about LGBT rights and different things like that.
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But after she had just finished doing a documentary about gay marriage and equal rights within
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marriage, she was kind of looking for what she was going to do her next documentary on,
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right?
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So you finish one and you start looking for other topics.
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And around the time that she was kind of thinking what she was going to try and do her next
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documentary on, there were two huge news stories that broke.
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The first was a Steubenville, West Virginia rape case where there was video of the people
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that performed this rape, kind of bragging about it on camera and it was a very, very
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egregious and very gross thing that had happened.
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And also in India, there was a gang rape of a woman on a bus, right?
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And you could see it on the bus's camera.
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You can see it going down and create a lot of outrage in India.
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And so this was kind of her sign to herself that she was going to begin researching rape
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culture.
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So she was going to be hot on the trail of rape culture and trying to do a documentary
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about that.
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Now, doing her research about rape culture, she came across a website called a Voice for
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Men.
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And this is a website ran by a guy named Paul Elam.
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And she found an article on there that it was basically talking about how women wanted
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to act out their rape fantasies.
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So as ridiculous as that might sound, like that is an article that was on this website.
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And so again, she's still kind of researching rape culture, but she was going to look at
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some of the things that were going to be posted on this website, a Voice for Men.
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So she began reading more and more articles and many times she said she had to stop actually
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halfway because the content was very, very offensive and explicit in a lot of different
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ways.
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But doing all of this research and reading all these articles on a Voice for Men, she
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kind of became aware of the men's rights movement.
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So that that was kind of her first dive into the men's rights movement.
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And then she decided that she was going to take a very, very deep dive and she decided
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that she was going to go down the rabbit hole and do a documentary on the men's rights movement.
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And obviously to get that kicked off, she was going to need to introduce herself and
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get to know some of the men's rights activists or MRAs.
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So in my description of this documentary, guys, I'm going to look at, you know, some
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important people and then I'm going to also look at some important topics from the film.
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Now I'm not doing a review, like from beginning to end, I'm not doing a summary or anything
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like that.
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I'm basically going to be pulling out high points about these people in this documentary
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and some of the topics that are brought up in this documentary.
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Because when you watch it, which obviously I'm going to suggest that you do so, you're
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going to see that these characters and these people that are, you know, these real people,
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they're coming in and out of the story at different points.
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And it's usually kind of topic based and there is a narrative arc to this whole thing.
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So at on this first part, I'm really just going to help you with some of the most important
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people from the documentary.
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So I already mentioned Paul Elon.
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So he was in many ways, I guess the central MRA in the documentary, right?
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So a voice for men founder.
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This is how the director and producer of this film kind of found out that this was even
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a movement.
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And he had a very important quote that he said right there in the middle and it had a very
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profound effect on Cassie as well and that it was this, trying to articulate the entire
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men's rights activist platform is like trying to understand a snow drift, one snowflake
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at a time.
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So he looks at a lot of different things Paul Elon does.
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And you know, if you go to his website, some of those articles, like, I just don't know
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how you could, you know, stomach, those are agree with him, but he really kind of talked
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a lot about how men need to be seen as human beings, not just human doings.
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I think that was a direct quote from the documentary.
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Men need to be seen as human beings, not just human doings.
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So we look a lot at how men are very, very capable of providing, you know, money and
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kind of taking care of a household in that way.
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And so he thinks that men have kind of been seen as less than human.
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That's one of his contentions in this film.
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And also he was, he made a lot of different distinctions about kind of where women's
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groups, so women's rights activists, kind of where they draw the line.
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He even made one comment towards the beginning of the documentary, which he said, you know,
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those groups aren't complaining that there aren't enough female ditch diggers, right?
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So it's like, it's a quality for all, but really only on the things that we want.
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Like we want a quality in, you know, higher education, we want equality in the STEM fields,
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we want equality with doctors and lawyers and things like that, but you're not really seeing
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this overwhelming outcry from these individuals on some of the more labor based type things.
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Then there was another guy in this documentary named Dr. Warren Farrell, you may have actually
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heard of this guy, but he's a best-selling author and a social anthropologist.
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And his book that kind of rose to fame for him was called the myth of male power.
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And some of the biggest ideas from this is that women are seen as sex objects and that
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men are seen as success objects, right?
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Women as sex objects, men as success objects.
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And he really talked a lot about how society has been able to succeed based on its ability
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to trade its young boys for success, right?
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So if you think about it, when wars are won, when, you know, new areas of the world were
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discovered, it was at, you know, the sacrifice of a lot of young able-bodied men, right?
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But the interesting thing that I found about Dr. Warren Farrell is that it talked about
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him that he was one of the early big wigs of the feminist issue, like the feminist movement
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rather, right?
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So he was a big-time speaker and he was on the women's side of the issue.
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He was a member of the National Organization for Women.
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But as he's going around doing all these speaking engagements, you know, he, he was starting
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to look at it from the men's perspective as well.
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And then that started to seep into some of his presentations and into some of his work.
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And he saw his speaking engagements kind of take like he wasn't really invited back.
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He saw the engagement at his speeches go down.
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He wasn't getting the standing ovations that he was used to by doing these speeches all
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around the world.
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And he, he kind of recalled when he went back and first started seeing the women's movement.
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And so he was studying for his doctorate at NYU in the late sixties, and that's kind
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of when the entire women's movement surfaced.
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And he was very, very enamored with it.
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And he noticed that there was this trend in New York.
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And I'm sure he looked at some other places where women were marrying men that made a
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lot of money, right?
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And in a lot of cases, it seemed like they just married those men because they made a
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lot of money.
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And he looked at it as a form of kind of lifetime prostitution, right?
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And that men on the other side of the equation, they always had to kind of wonder if love,
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if the love was real in the relationship because the money they make, they, they weren't ever
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really sure that this woman that they were doing life with was actually in it with them.
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You know what I mean?
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And so he basically thought that the women's liberation movement at the time would be good
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for men, like into a certain degree, it's because it kind of let them off the hook from
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being the breadwinner.
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So you weren't going to have this tremendous focus on the man making all this money and
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providing as much for the family, right?
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And then he also talks a lot about on his sections of the documentary that he's big on
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the flexibility of roles with men and women.
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But where the men's rights movement disagrees from the feminist movement is that, you know,
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basically the feminists think that men are the oppressors and they're involved in a patriarchal
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world where men invented the rules to benefit men only, right?
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And that's a fairly big point of contention, right?
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It's kind of, it's kind of hard to deal with both of those at the same time.
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And another thing that he kind of pointed out that was interesting was just kind of the
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focus on women's issues in the modern day as opposed to men's issues.
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And one of the examples that he cited was when you look at prostate cancer and you look
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at breast cancer, the mortality rates for those two diseases are about equal.
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But the funding for breast cancer is like quite a bit larger than that for prostate cancer.
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There's just kind of more of a focus on the women's issues and we'll kind of get more
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into the reason why, or the guy gets the theory as to why that is a little bit later.
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And now I'm going to talk to you about a guy named Fred Hayward.
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So he was the founder of men's rights, Inc.
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And this guy had a lot of very interesting stories and I'm not going to go into everything
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about him on this section.
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But he basically talked a lot about how the value of men's work, that we as a society,
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that we value men's work more than we value women's work, right?
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And so we've heard this thing, basically that, you know, the lives of women also are more
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valuable than men's lives.
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We look at this a lot whenever you see it and if you've heard any different comedians
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kind of point this out as a joke, but it's just like, you know, men go down with the
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ship, right?
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It's always women and children first.
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And we always look at these examples of men putting themselves in front of women and children
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as kind of this cowardly act, right?
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But we tell men as a society that you have to provide, even if the job is dangerous,
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right, that do whatever you can to provide for your family.
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So he looked at the stat about 93% of workplace deaths are men.
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So almost everyone that dies in the workplace is a man, right?
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But then he pointed out war deaths.
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And I thought this was, I mean, we kind of know this, but whenever you put actual numbers
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to it, it was pretty crazy.
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So in the Korean war, there were two female deaths and 36,572 male deaths.
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So that's 99.9% male.
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In Vietnam, there were eight female deaths and 58,217 male deaths.
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That's 99.9% again.
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In the Persian Gulf, there were 15 female deaths and 280 male deaths.
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So that's 95% male.
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In operation and during freedom, there are 51 female deaths and 2,301 male deaths.
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That's 98%.
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And finally, in Operation Iraqi Freedom, there has been 110 female deaths and then 4,302 male
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deaths, which is 98%.
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So we see this a lot in these kind of more dangerous types of things that the men seem
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to be way more expendable, right?
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So men, we've been told that provider protector and initiate relationships, right?
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That's the role of men.
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And that's something that is pointed out by Fred Hayward a lot of times in this documentary.
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And he also talks about how it's so hard to compare how women and men have suffered from
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sexism, right?
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And I think the example he pointed out was there's no way really to quantify men living
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five years shorter, which is on average how much, you know, shorter a man lives in a woman
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in America versus women making 30% less money, which if you know anything about that stat,
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you know that that stat is absolutely ridiculous.
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Now, I mean, a lot of different feminists and you've probably seen that on bumper stickers
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and talked about all in television that, you know, women make 70 cents for every dollar
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a man makes.
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That is an incorrect stat.
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It's absolutely not correct at all.
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There was a large study that was done and I'll see if I can find the link and shoot it
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out to everybody.
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But there was a large study that was done.
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It looked like at the top 50 metropolitan areas in the United States and it looked at
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men and women and what they were making in the same exact fields and whenever both of
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the parties, so the men and the women worked in kind of an uninterrupted fashion, right?
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So they didn't take any time off.
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Men actually made more than the men in almost every single one of these 50 metropolitan areas
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that they started at.
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The big difference, obviously, is that some women decided that they were going to take
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time away from their careers in order to have children, right?
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Biologically, they're the ones that have to have the children.
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So when you take time off away from from your business to have kids or from your profession
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to have children and whenever you come back to work, you're not wanting to work as many
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hours, you can't expect the pay to be equal because it's just not equal.
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But one thing, I kind of look at this as an entire group of people.
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So there's a lot of feminists in the documentary.
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So Cassie Jay made sure to talk with a lot of different feminist groups and individual
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feminists throughout the documentary.
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And so some of the things that they said is that the men's rights movement is just part
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of the backlash, right?
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So they look at the men's rights movement just as basically a backlash against women
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getting rights, women kind of developing into our culture, right?
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It's just that, you know, the men are threatened by the gains that women have made during the
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feminist movement and that you hear them say that, you know, the world is certainly not
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tilted in the woman's favor.
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And that the idea that men are victims just doesn't have any traction.
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Some of them were actually fairly militant on that point that is almost impossible for
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a man to be a victim of anything when it comes to kind of the male versus female ratio of
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anything.
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And in the men's rights movement, it's some people even claim that the men's rights movement
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is the gender version of white nationalism, which I felt was a pretty extreme statement
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to make.
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But this guy made it that men aren't disadvantaged at all under the law.
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They think that men shouldn't have more rights in custody because women are doing the majority
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of child care during their relationship.
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And then this was one thing that I thought was incredibly just insane.
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I couldn't believe that this was said by one of the feminists in the film, but it was basically
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that a man can only have the right to choose about a baby prior to sex, right?
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So because there's, you know, there's drama in this kind of pool as to when does a man
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have rights whenever the baby's growing in the woman's body?
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Well, this feminist was basically saying that basically before sex happens is the only time
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the man has a choice, right?
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So once pregnant, all the decisions are with the woman because the woman is the most impacted,
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right? That ultimately she has the biggest responsibility to the child, which I thought
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was an unbelievably reprehensible thing to say, but it's something that was thrown out
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there.
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And one thing that you see during this documentary is, and I'll talk a little bit more about it
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later in detail, but Cassie was very conflicted while she was going through this documentary
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hearing from both sides of this issue.
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And even in the middle of filming this documentary, she kind of reached back out to some of these
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groups, some of these feminist groups, and she even entered some feminist groups to kind
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of help, I guess, ground herself when she started to feel challenged, right?
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Because again, she was a self-described feminist from the very beginning of this research,
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but then she found herself kind of questioning all these different ideologies and she was
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trying to ground herself again.
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Now one group that was incredibly interesting from this documentary was a group called The
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Honey Badgers, okay?
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So in contrast to the feminists, these are women who support the men's rights movement.
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So I don't think this is an obviously a very large group of women, but there are quite a
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few women that are supporting the things that the men's rights activists are trying to bring
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into the modern cultural conversation.
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And basically it was there was this need to be able to recognize men that they are vulnerable,
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right?
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And how women can be actors, right?
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How women can do bad things, how women can be violent.
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But I want to talk about one specific honey badger and her name was Karen Strong.
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And she was probably the most outspoken of all the ones that we saw in the documentary,
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but she told an incredible story.
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So I've watched this documentary twice and after I've watched it the first time, this
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was probably the very first thing that stuck in my brain out of all the things that I heard
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in the documentary.
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She talked about a story, a really incredible story about Boko Haram.
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So if you don't know, Boko Haram is an Islamic fundamentalist terrorist organization that basically
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operates mainly out of Africa.
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And so I think a lot of you will remember when this happened, but a few years back, this
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was during kind of the latter years of the Obama administration, there were over 300
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school age girls that were kidnapped from their boarding school in Nigeria.
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So basically, Boko Haram came in at night, started burning the place down, kidnapped
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all the girls through them on trucks and drove them out into the jungle, right?
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And so we don't know exactly what was happening to these girls, but you know, we do know definitely
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that they were being sexually assaulted, some of them were being sold off.
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And basically, there was a large international world ride outcry about what was happening,
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right?
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And rightfully so, like no one would say that it was a bad thing.
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But you saw Michelle Obama was talking on camera and then there was this famous picture
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of her holding holding up a white piece of paper that said, bring back our girls, which
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became a global phenomenon, a global movement of sorts.
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So we saw this in all kinds of places, we saw it all over social media, we saw it at
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awards shows, you know, bring back our girls, they were talking about it on Ellen, they're
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talking about it, you know, at the Grammys, like it was all over the place, right?
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And basically, how this was spun in the media is that these Islamic fundamentalist terrorists
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were just not wanting these girls to get an education, right?
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So it was, it was this patriarchy, this, you know, Islamic fundamentalist patriarchy that
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was just trying to be misogynistic and hold down these girls and not allow them to get
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an education of any kind.
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That's how the mainstream media spun it.
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But in reality, these men in Boko Haram didn't want anyone getting an education, like anybody,
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because a lot of these boarding schools, they were teaching more of a Western, you know,
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sometimes secular style of education, right?
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But the one big thing that is pointed out here in this section by Karen Strong is that
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there were many earlier attacks, and this is the key part of this entire story, okay?
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So thousands of boys and men had been killed in kind of the lead up to them kidnapping
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these girls.
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So in the years prior, thousands of boys and men had been killed.
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But when you look back on the stories and how they were covered in the media, they were
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always described as people or villagers or students or pupils, something like that.
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They were never called boys, they were never called men, right?
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And in the previous attacks on the schools, Boko Haram actually divided the girls and
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boys up and let the girls go.
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Like they actually let the girls go.
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They said, hey, go back home, you know, pray for forgiveness from Allah and live a righteous
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life under Allah, right?
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But basically as soon as they let the girls go, they burn the boys alive, right?
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These were in some of the previous attacks on the schools.
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And the media was completely silent about all of this.
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I mean, thousands and thousands of people were dying and, you know, hundreds and hundreds
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on a kind of a monthly basis.
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And the international media was fairly well silent on it.
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I mean, it was being covered, but not in any major way, right?
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The media was silent on this issue until the girls were kidnapped, right?
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They didn't give any attention to the murdered boys, but as soon as the girls were just kidnapped,
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then that was, you know, that was too much.
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That was too far.
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And this was exactly what Boko Haram wanted.
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The entire time they're doing all these things and killing all these boys and burning people
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alive, they wanted attention.
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And then they finally realized that they were not going to get it if they were just going
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to continue killing the boys.
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So they just kidnapped the girls.
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And then all of a sudden, the UN, the Obamas, everyone was ready to launch into action,
23:10
right?
23:11
You know, how can we get money together?
23:12
How can we get military together to go and get these girls back?
23:15
And you know, the point that Karen pointed out in this section is that maybe if somebody
23:19
had done something well before this time, like, you know, when the boys were attacked,
23:25
the girls would have never been kidnapped, but you can't do a bring back our boys campaign
23:30
if all the boys are dead, right?
23:31
So the thing that was pointed out here is Boko Haram in a lot of ways before they kidnapped
23:36
these girls, they were acting shiver us.
23:39
They were they were being chivalrous, right?
23:41
They were separating the girls out because they didn't want to do anything to them.
23:46
And so I thought that was an incredible story that was told because I remember being back
23:50
at that and just thinking being back at that time and thinking, man, you know, this sucks
23:53
for these girls.
23:54
And we I wish somebody would figure out how to do something, let's send the seals over
23:57
there and have them go take care of business.
23:59
But yeah, you've never heard about the boys that were killed in all the months and years
24:03
prior to that.
24:05
So those are just some of the important characters in this documentary.
24:08
But now I want to go over some of the important topics that were brought up.
24:12
And the first topic obviously is going to be patriarchy, right?
24:15
Because this is the single greatest evil, like the great devil plaguing women is this
24:20
quote unquote patriarchy, whatever that is.
24:23
And so in the documentary talks a lot about how originally in the sixties and the seventies,
24:28
the enemy of people kind of on the political left was capitalism, like capitalism was the
24:32
greatest whipping boy of all these people that wanted to basically rally against something.
24:38
But then the feminist movement kind of switched from capitalism being the enemy to patriarchy
24:45
being the enemy, right?
24:47
You know, all men are essentially the enemy.
24:50
And the patriarchy essentially was a result of gender roles, right?
24:55
So what we've seen passed down through hundreds and hundreds of years of gender roles became
24:59
this evil overwhelming power called patriarchy.
25:02
And you know, women's power and responsibility is normally in the reproductive sphere.
25:07
And for men, it's in the productive sphere.
25:09
And so that's one dichotomy that's talked about in this documentary when it's talking
25:13
about the patriarchy.
25:14
It's kind of what we normally assume when we look at women's and men's roles.
25:18
But the one thing that that they talked a lot about in patriarchy, because there's a lot
25:21
made about how, you know, only about 20% of women in Congress, or there's only about
25:26
20% women in Congress, rather, and how, you know, a very small percentage of Fortune 500
25:32
companies have female CEOs, they basically were talking a lot about how much you have
25:38
to give up in order to be a big dog in politics and in business.
25:43
And that simply, there are more men that are willing to do that than women, which I thought,
25:48
you know, it's a very interesting thing.
25:49
But if you look at it, that's actually fairly true.
25:52
When you look at the patriarchy and you look at all these evil things, it's not as if there's
25:56
a bunch of women that are lining up that just don't have the opportunity, right?
25:59
A lot of these men have sacrificed their entire life, sacrificed their family, sacrificed
26:05
their health in order to attain superiority in a lot of these fears where we look at things
26:10
being very influential, very important, right?
26:12
So patriarchy is obviously a big theme in this documentary.
26:17
So we look at issues of custody, paternity, and father's rights.
26:21
And so it was pointed out in this documentary that for the most part, a lot of men come
26:26
to the men's rights movement or become an MRA after a divorce where they lose custody
26:32
of their child, right?
26:34
Because what we see in our social justice system is that about 80% of custodial parents
26:39
are women, right?
26:40
So only about 20% of men get custody of their children.
26:43
So that's a rather small percentage.
26:45
And basically the court system is communicating to us that moms are more capable of providing
26:51
parenting, whereas dads are more capable of providing a paycheck, right?
26:56
So this is kind of the other side of patriarchy, where it's just like, you know, men are expected
27:00
to make the larger amount of money so they can, they need to spend time not parenting,
27:04
but they need to spend time out making that money.
27:07
And so one thing that Paul Allen pointed out is it's kind of the Uncle Daddy syndrome,
27:10
right, where you basically get granted access to your children every other weekend and,
27:15
you know, every odd number, year at holiday or something like that.
27:19
But it's kind of this Uncle Daddy syndrome, but it was also pointed out that women have
27:24
an unbelievable amount of power in the area of paternity and custody and those different
27:29
things.
27:30
And there were three stories that were pointed out in this documentary that I thought were
27:32
just gut wrenching and just horrible.
27:34
So there was one about a South Carolina man whose daughter was adopted away by the mother
27:39
without his knowledge.
27:41
So he did not even know that that she was pregnant.
27:44
He did not even know that he had a kid and she adopted this child away and he had no legal
27:50
rights to this child and he was trying to fight to get some sort of rights to his child,
27:54
which he was not given, right?
27:56
Because the woman did not have to get his consent in order to do that.
27:59
There was also a Colorado man whose wife left the state on purpose in order to give birth
28:05
and she did that specifically so that the dad would not have rights to the kid.
28:09
I think she was in Utah and I drove to a different state or something like that.
28:12
But it took this dad a four year legal battle just to get visitation of his son.
28:19
I mean, just think about that.
28:20
You had a woman who did a very evil thing, drove to another state to keep her, you know,
28:25
the kid's biological father from having any part to do with him and it took him four years
28:28
and untold amounts of money just to get the right to visit him.
28:32
And then there was a Utah man who basically was told by the mother of the child that the
28:40
child was going to be given up for adoption, but she gave him such last minute notice to
28:44
where he literally only had literally a few hours to try and file all the paperwork to
28:49
stop the adoption, which was impossible to do.
28:52
And so he lost complete rights over his daughter.
28:55
So it just talked a lot about these different issues that are going on with custody and
28:59
paternity rights, but the biggest thing that I was talking about in that sphere in the
29:03
documentary was about paternity fraud.
29:05
And this is something that, you know, we assume that it happens, but just when you hear these
29:09
stories, it just becomes an unbelievable reality.
29:12
But wrongful paternity could be innocent, but paternity fraud is purposeful, right?
29:17
That is deliberate fraud.
29:18
You know, if you have a woman who sleeps with, you know, multiple men inside a week and gets
29:22
pregnant, she just doesn't know exactly who the father is.
29:25
She takes her best guess.
29:26
That's wrongful paternity.
29:28
But paternity fraud is something where the person is deliberately trying to be fraudulent
29:31
and how they're dealing with the individual and how they're dealing with the person who's
29:35
actually going to be fathering the child or who actually did father the child, right?
29:39
So one of the craziest stories from the entire documentary and just thinking through this,
29:42
I want you guys to kind of put yourself in this guy's shoes just to see how you would
29:45
react.
29:46
So this was in Texas.
29:48
There was a family that had five kids, right?
29:50
I think it was all five boys.
29:51
And so one of the kids got into an accident of some kind and they had to go to the hospital,
29:57
right?
29:58
And so when they got to the hospital, they needed a blood transfusion of sorts and basically
30:02
you can go to the immediate, you know, paternal father, you can go to the father and get an
30:07
immediate blood transfusion.
30:08
But in order to do that, the hospital obviously has to do a check on the blood and all that.
30:12
So the dad said, absolutely, I want to give blood.
30:14
Let's do this test.
30:15
Let's get this going.
30:17
And then they did this test and they go, I'm sorry, sir.
30:19
You're not going to be able to donate.
30:21
You're just not going to be able to donate blood.
30:22
And he's like, what are you talking about?
30:23
Like this is my son.
30:24
Like what in the world are you talking about?
30:26
And they kind of had to break the news to him at the hospital that they're like, sir,
30:29
I'm so sorry.
30:30
This is not your son, which, you know, his, his kids in there, it was a terrible accident.
30:36
And now he had to hear this from the doctor and kind of long story short is that what
30:41
ended up being the case was that none of the kids were his, like none of the five sons
30:47
were his.
30:48
They were all the sons of a guy that lived down the street.
30:52
Yeah.
30:54
Think about that.
30:55
So the mom of these children knew the entire time that it was not the, the guy that had
31:03
been living with her, her husband, it was not her kids, right?
31:07
She knew that all five of the children had been parented and fathered by the guy down
31:10
the street.
31:12
And so here you have this guy, he's, you know, been raising these kids as his own for so long
31:16
and then all of a sudden he's got punched with that.
31:18
So just deliberate paternity fraud.
31:20
And there was also a story about a Michigan man who was on the heels of going to jail
31:25
because he owed $30,000 in back child support to the mother of a child that isn't even his.
31:35
So the state's about to put this guy in jail, right, ruin his life and dragging him through
31:40
the court system because he hasn't been paying child support to a woman who's lied about who
31:45
the baby's father is.
31:46
So what ended up happening is at the hospital, the woman just had to put someone's name
31:50
down and she put this guy's name down, but they did a paternity test and that is not
31:54
his child.
31:55
So paternity fraud was obviously a big part of this documentary as well.
31:59
But one of the largest sections of this documentary and really one of the more kind of disgusting
32:05
things and one of the things that, you know, you didn't really think about on a regular
32:08
basis was domestic assault and that, you know, there's a lot of different areas you could
32:13
go and I don't go into, you know, all the things that was talked about in the documentary
32:16
here, but police basically don't take female to male domestic assault that seriously.
32:23
That's something that we see a lot and that there are men that are being arrested even
32:28
when the female is the aggressor.
32:30
That's just kind of the default nature of things.
32:33
But the reality is is that there are plenty of men that are on the receiving end of domestic
32:38
violence, right?
32:40
So the stats are fairly damning that, you know, about one in three women is going to
32:45
experience domestic assault and also one in four men is going to be the victim of domestic
32:51
violence.
32:52
So one in three women and one in four men, like that's actually really crazy in 2014,
32:58
the Center for Disease Control, they released these numbers that in 2014, 5.4 million men
33:04
had been victims of intimate partner physical violence, whereas 4.7 million women were victims
33:11
of intimate partner physical violence.
33:14
5.4 million for men and 4.7 million for women.
33:18
This goes completely against the narrative that we get, right?
33:20
That that women are just beaten on this on this regular basis and that it's never an
33:24
issue that happens for men.
33:27
And then one thing you look at and one thing that's incredibly important is if a woman
33:30
is being beaten by a man, which obviously happens in its way, way too common, there
33:35
are domestic violence shelters and there's literally over 2,000 of them across the United
33:39
States.
33:40
There's a lot of funding and they take in these women that have been battered.
33:44
However, if you were a man that is on the receiving end of a female aggressor, there
33:50
is only one domestic violence shelter in the entire United States that will take men.
33:56
There's one.
33:58
So out of the over 2,000 domestic violence shelters, only one of them takes men and it's
34:01
located in Arkansas.
34:03
And almost all of these shelters are state funded, right?
34:10
And it's just a really important thing to think about that that we don't normally think
34:15
about that as an issue, right?
34:17
And one thing that we we look at is there's a lot of different things that if you brought
34:22
it up in another context, we would just think it was crazy.
34:25
So one thing that was brought up in this documentary is that 78% of all suicides are men, right?
34:30
So if suicide prevention services were only extended to men, we would see the inequity
34:37
almost immediately, right?
34:40
Like we would think, wait, wait, wait a minute.
34:42
There is 22% of women that are killing themselves.
34:45
Why would we only give this this right for service and for help to men?
34:49
That doesn't seem that doesn't seem like a very good idea.
34:52
There's another character from this documentary named Aaron Pizzi.
34:56
So she was actually she's a big men's rights movement person now, but she originally came
35:02
to prominence because she founded the first ever women's shelter.
35:05
So this was back in the UK in 1971, right?
35:09
And so, but the reason why she has kind of become maligned by the women's rights movement
35:14
is because she acknowledges and was one of the first to vehemently talk about this.
35:18
She acknowledges that domestic violence is almost always consensual.
35:22
So she's been barred pretty much from every feminist movement and all these different
35:27
rallies.
35:28
And she's even been barred from her own shelter, you know, the shelter that she founded where
35:32
she paid for the building, because she dared to say that women could be and in a lot of
35:37
ways are as violent as men are.
35:39
And we see a lot from the other feminists that are mentioned in this documentary.
35:43
They kind of come out and say that domestic violence is just a euphemism for wife feeding
35:47
that they don't even acknowledge that this could possibly happen to a man.
35:51
And that when this is addressed as a men's issue, it normally when it is addressed as
35:56
a men's issue, it's because it's blaming the men entirely, right?
36:00
So whenever you hear about domestic violence and you hear about the men's side, it's because
36:04
the men need to fix this, like the men need to be the ones to fix this issue, that it's
36:08
basically only happening from a man to a woman.
36:12
One thing I talked about in here as well is that if you were convicted, or if Alicia
36:17
brought up on charges of domestic abuse as a man, you basically have to go through counseling.
36:21
And if you don't go through certain types of counseling, it could increase your sentence
36:25
and different things like that.
36:26
But it talked about this thing called the Duluth power of control wheel.
36:30
And this was something that was made in 1977.
36:33
But this is basically the lens through which all domestic violence programs have to have
36:37
to view what happened.
36:39
And this is what the entire domestic violence industry is based on.
36:43
And it's all about men and it has these eight categories on this wheel and it applies only
36:49
to men and how they treat women.
36:51
So here are the eight categories.
36:52
It talks about using coercion and threats, using intimidation, using emotional abuse,
36:58
using isolation, minimizing, denying and blaming, using children, using male privilege and using
37:05
economic abuse.
37:07
And basically, if you deny that you're a domestic abuser, that you're automatically, you're
37:12
just in denial.
37:13
Like it's not that you're denying that it ever happened, it's just that you are actually
37:17
in denial.
37:18
And if you don't admit it, basically, if you don't complete this course, you could go
37:22
to jail, it could increase your fine or whatever the things that's basically happening with
37:25
you.
37:26
And so one thing we see in this is another important topic based off of this is just
37:29
kind of how militant the radical feminist movement is.
37:33
So I'm not talking necessarily about first way feminism, but it's the radical ends of
37:37
second and third way feminism.
37:39
And basically, a lot of feminists have gone through and successfully been able to advocate
37:44
for the rewriting of laws, but it's only the laws that help women.
37:48
So when men have tried to rewrite joint custody laws so that they could actually have more
37:52
right to their kids, feminist fight against that, you know, feminists have fought against,
37:57
you know, very, very violently, they fought against not actual violence, but they fought
38:01
against paternity tests at birth as being some sort of a infringement on the rights of
38:06
a woman.
38:07
You know, feminists have actually been fighting rape laws, including men, right, specifically
38:12
in India.
38:13
They were, you know, people in India were trying to make sure that men that were raped
38:16
would be able to be included in these rape laws and feminist groups have actually fought
38:20
against that.
38:21
So it just became clear a lot in this documentary.
38:24
And again, you're looking at kind of one person's point of view at a time.
38:28
And there's if there's this overall narrative arc, but any time a point of view is presented
38:33
that's contrary to kind of the accepted feminist view, it's shut down or shouted down.
38:38
So it looked at a lot of these speakers, a lot of these characters I've talked about
38:42
in this documentary, when they've gone to speak on college campuses or anything to do
38:46
with the men's rights movement, there's like rioters and picketers outside, you know, they'll
38:51
go inside of the presentation and they'll just make a lot of noise and make it impossible
38:56
to hear what the speaker is saying.
38:57
They'll pull the fire alarm in the middle of a presentation like it's just a lot of different
39:01
things become shut down or disrupted anytime any point of view is presented that way.
39:07
And Cassie Jay, guys, like she's been destroyed for this documentary.
39:11
I mean, this is, you know, just a little blonde woman who just decided she was going to study
39:16
this and all of a sudden she's presenting it in the way that she found it.
39:19
And she has been raped over the coals, like she's just been lambasted.
39:24
It's really been nuts.
39:25
And you know, the conversations on this topic are being silenced.
39:30
And that's one thing that she found as she was kind of going through this entire process
39:34
was that a lot of these voices, you never hear them because it doesn't fit a particular
39:38
narrative.
39:39
You know what I mean?
39:40
But one of the last things I want to talk about here is a really awesome thing that I
39:43
saw Cassie do.
39:44
And that is that she basically kept a video diary during all these interviews and research.
39:50
So she was filming and doing the research for this documentary over about a year.
39:54
I think it was, she mentioned that it was about a year.
39:56
I think it went far beyond that.
39:58
But she did something that was very bold and very ballsy.
40:00
And so she kept a video diary the entire time and she included a lot of parts of the video
40:04
diary in the documentary.
40:07
And one of the cool things that you can see is you can see her views being challenged.
40:12
Like you can see it as the arc and the narrative of the documentary is being being presented
40:16
to you.
40:17
You can see that her views are being challenged directly.
40:20
And she even admitted that within feminism, she could draw on personal experience as a
40:25
woman, right?
40:26
She could always draw on those things.
40:28
But she couldn't do that with a men's movement because she wasn't a man.
40:31
And at the time that she was doing this documentary, I don't think she was in a relationship with
40:34
a man.
40:35
And so that's kind of one of those things.
40:36
It was hard for her to sympathize.
40:38
But she became very uncomfortable with the concept that women actually have it pretty good.
40:45
And just think about that.
40:47
The realization that women in modern Western society actually have it pretty good made
40:52
her uncomfortable.
40:53
Like you could just see it, you can see it in her face that she was so torn by that.
40:58
And then she wondered if men tune out the feminist movement because they have it so bad on their
41:05
side too, that when you all you hear is the feminist talking about how bad things are
41:09
for them and the plight of the modern woman.
41:12
And then these men are experiencing all the things I talked about earlier, like these issues
41:16
with paternity fraud and these issues with custody battles and different things and doing
41:21
all these difficult and dangerous jobs, you know, they don't want to hear a feminist get
41:25
up and tell them again about how bad they are.
41:27
So in one of these diaries, she mentioned that she was actually thankful that she wasn't
41:32
born a male.
41:34
Like she was thankful that she was born as a female in this society that she's in.
41:40
And you know, that she herself was not sure that she would want the responsibility of dying
41:44
to sacrifice for the greater good or providing in some sort of a massive way.
41:50
And in one of the videos, she actually becomes visibly upset when when her paradigms were
41:55
being challenged, right?
41:57
So you can see her going back and forth and back and forth, even in the same statement
42:01
that she's making to the camera, because she's being challenged so in such a big way, right?
42:06
And it was just a big time struggle for her to try and find truth because we all we hear
42:11
that, you know, the truth is always somewhere in the middle.
42:13
But these two camps, basically the the feminist movement and the men's rights movement, they
42:18
couldn't have been, you know, any farther apart, right?
42:20
So where is that happy medium?
42:22
Where's that happy middle?
42:23
And she she really never thought that she'd be doing a documentary on men's rights movement
42:30
and it would challenge her feminist ideology.
42:32
I mean, again, she wasn't exactly proof texting when she was going in trying to make this
42:36
documentary.
42:37
She was honestly curious about the men's rights movement and she thought she could do
42:40
a good job of telling their story.
42:42
And then obviously she was going to just keep her own sentiments.
42:45
But what she found is that the MRA's points were substantiated by the data that over and
42:51
over and just be honest, guys, when you watch this documentary, you're not going to necessarily
42:56
see see yourself in a lot of these guys.
42:59
Some of these guys seem to be really well put together.
43:02
Some of these guys, maybe not so much, but she could just see that no matter how the data
43:08
was presented to her from all these different MRAs, that it was substantiated that these
43:13
guys were not making up the plight of the modern man in a lot of these different areas.
43:18
And it just kept putting her on the defensive.
43:20
She just kept finding herself on the defensive.
43:23
And at the very end of the documentary, she makes a fairly incredible statement.
43:28
And it's the very, very last line of the documentary.
43:31
But I want you to watch the documentary so that you can hear it for yourself, okay?
43:35
This documentary is well worth your time.
43:37
And so I think the arc and narrative of this documentary really makes the last statement
43:42
that she makes just that much more impactful, right?
43:46
Because it's just something that you were not expecting from the very, very beginning
43:49
and even throughout the documentary, you just never could have expected she would have said
43:52
something like this.
43:53
So those are just kind of my thoughts summarizing some parts of the documentary, some of the
43:58
important people, but also some of the important topics that were brought up.
44:02
But I want to give you guys some reasons why I think that every man should watch this documentary,
44:07
right?
44:08
And I understand we all have our different tastes.
44:09
We all have our different things that we're into.
44:11
But here are 10 reasons that I think all of you guys listening to this should watch this
44:15
documentary.
44:17
So the first reason is we see a great example of someone being open to changing their mind
44:23
and then having the guts to be transparent.
44:25
So this is something that we may not think to ourselves like, man, that's like, that's
44:29
a good thing.
44:30
But how much do we see this anymore?
44:31
We just don't see people that are really open to having their minds changed, right?
44:35
I've talked about this a lot in other episodes of this podcast, but people just want to be
44:38
in a silo in an echo chamber where everyone is basically saying the same thing and corroborating
44:44
something that they already believe in, right?
44:46
But Cassie J was brave for doing this, right?
44:49
We live in an age right now where an Olympic hero that cuts off his dick and calls himself
44:54
by a female name, we call that person a hero.
44:57
We call that guy a hero, right?
44:59
But this is, I'm not going to say this is heroic, but this was a brave thing for her
45:02
to do to be this transparent, to say that she wasn't a vowed feminist, but then she was
45:08
going into this, you know, this men's rights movement with an open mind.
45:12
So I think that's a great reason to watch this.
45:14
The second reason is that it's always a good idea to see two sides of a single issue.
45:20
So as I just said, don't be the guy that's always looking to echo chamber yourself.
45:24
Don't just read things that already agree with your political ideology.
45:28
Don't just listen to podcasts that already agree with your worldview.
45:31
It's always good to see two sides of a single issue.
45:35
Another reason to watch this documentary is that it's always a good idea to see how complicated
45:39
a single issue is.
45:41
So if you look at this as just the men's rights movement, that is not big enough.
45:47
That's not a big enough way to think about this.
45:49
Even if you look at this as the women's rights movement versus the men's rights movement,
45:54
that's also not big enough.
45:55
There are so many things guys that I didn't even talk about.
45:58
Again, I only have so long to record this podcast and this is a two hour long documentary.
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So there's a whole lot of content in there that just didn't really fit into what I wanted
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to share with all you guys.
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So just you have to be able to see how complicated even a single issue can be.
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And I'm absolutely positive that there were other pockets of pain and other veins of
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these stories that we didn't even get into because even as the documentary filmmaker
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admitted, she only had a couple hours in order to tell this entire story, right?
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So another thing.
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Another reason why you should watch this is that it's popular in its relevant.
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Yeah, it was made in 2016, but it's made the rounds.
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It's on a lot of different avenues.
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And it was actually suggested to me by female on social media.
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There was someone that shared, I shared some article about how boys are suffering in modern
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society.
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And someone sent me a suggestion that I should listen or watch this documentary and you know,
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it's been great.
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And I'm really glad that she did that.
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A fifth reason I think is that it's a conversation starter guys.
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I think this is a great thing that you can do a great thing that you can watch with other
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guys and you can come together and discuss it afterwards.
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Watch this with your wife or girlfriend or something like that.
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See what she thinks.
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You know, if you know a feminist in your life who's, you know, fair-minded, someone who's
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going to be able to look at things objectively, have them watch it and you watch it yourself
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and then come together and talk about it over coffee.
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I think that'd be a really cool thing.
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It's a great conversation starter.
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There's a lot to talk about.
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Another reason I think every man should watch this is that you don't want to be caught off
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guard when these topics come up, right?
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And by these topics, I mean, the topics that are talked about in this documentary.
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So some of the favorite things that feminists like to argue about and some of the favorite
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things that men's rights activists want to argue about and want to bring up.
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So you don't want to be just caught on the where and you all of a sudden are in some
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sort of a political discourse or discussion with somebody that's like, Oh, shoot, I don't
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really have a fully formed opinion on this.
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Another reason I think you should all watch this is because men's issues are real.
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They are.
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And just even staying saying that statement, some people are like, Oh gosh, here we go.
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This guy's going to be talking about men's issues when there's all this plight of all
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these other people in the world.
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And I get it.
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We're all in a post three, you know, post Genesis three world.
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That's where we're all living.
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So we're all living in a broken world just trying to do our best, but there really are
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men's issues.
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I talked about a lot of them up top, so I'm not going to re re tell them now, but there
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are issues out there that need to be discussed.
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Another reason you should watch this documentary is that men's issues are trending in a bad
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direction.
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So when you look at what what guys are doing in higher education, when you look at different
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things that are happening in the workforce, we're not seeing things really going that
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particularly well for men.
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It's really trending in a bad direction.
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And so, and it's only becoming worse, like there doesn't seem to be this big revolution
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of focus on, you know, boys transitioning into manhood in a proper way.
48:48
You know, you don't see a lot of guys calling for, Hey, why is there less than 40% males
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in higher education now, why are 40, why are so many men kind of, you know, failing out
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of college?
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Why are they leaving college early?
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We're not seeing this big public outcry for the plight of men, right?
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And since these issues are trending in a bad direction, the more you know about them, the
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easier it is going to be for you to recognize it in your life and to be able to have an
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effect on yourself and the men around you.
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Another reason I think you should watch this documentary is that we need to be able to
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stand in the breach for the next generation of men.
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That's something that we need to be able to do, right?
49:21
So when we become a sage of sorts, so at some point in your life, hopefully you will be
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able to transfer to being the guy that has the wisdom.
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So you're the guy in the neighborhood with the wisdom, you're the guy at the church or
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the guy at your job that has a more of a wisdom filled approach to things.
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You're going to need to be able to stand in the breach and help out the next generation
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of men.
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You're going to need to help them understand what's going on inside their heads, inside
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their hearts.
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You're going to need to help understand the spiritual issues that they're going to be going
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through the societal and cultural issues that could be crushing them.
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We need to be able to help out with that.
49:53
And a final thing that I think, our final reason rather that we should all watch this
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and that all of you should watch this documentary is it's an opportunity to take the red pill.
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Right?
50:03
So that's obviously a play on words from something that has gone on with the naming of this documentary,
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but there are always opportunities to have your eyes opened to reality, right?
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But normally we get to choose whether or not we go down that path, Neo in the Matrix, how
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to choice between the red pill and the blue pill, and he chose the red pill.
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So we always need to look at things within culture and see if there's a way to understand
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it outside of the normal accepted cultural narrative.
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So when we look back on history, we always look at these things that happened in history,
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like how could this have happened?
50:35
Like how could people have followed Hitler and think have thought his ideology was great?
50:39
Like how could people have gone along with some of the atrocities that Genghis Khan thought
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was was a good idea?
50:45
Like we always look back, but then it's just like when you're living in that time, it's
50:48
so hard to pull yourself out from ground level and ascend to the 30,000 foot view to look
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at the entire situation.
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And also guys, look at it from this perspective.
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The gospel is probably the biggest red pill ever, right?
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Because think about it.
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We live in this secular age and we live in this, this very non-theistic age where everything
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culturally is pointing in that direction, but the gospel of Jesus Christ is the red pill.
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It is the reality that we all need.
51:15
If you take the blue pill of culture, you're just going to sink right back down into what
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culture is telling you to do, right?
51:21
You know, do what makes you happy.
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You know, seek out opportunities to follow your heart and all these really, really stupid
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pieces of advice, right?
51:28
But the gospel tells us a different way.
51:30
It tells us a different way to act in this world.
51:33
So for a lot of you listening to this podcast, you've taken the red pill, like you believe
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in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
51:38
And for those of you that don't, all you have to do is accept it.
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You just have to believe that Jesus Christ is a son of God, that he was raised from the
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dead and that he died for your sins.
51:48
That's what you need to do.
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There's not some sort of like crazy 27 step thing that you need to do in order to enter
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the kingdom of God.
51:54
Like you just got to, you have to believe in that.
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And that's the red pill, guys.
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So this is another opportunity for you to take the red pill and something that would be incredibly
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beneficial for you.
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All right, guys.
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So we're going to do a quick resilience boost before we let you go.
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As you know, by now we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating manly resilience
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and specifically we do that by providing content that forges spiritual, mental and physical
52:16
toughness.
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And today we're going to focus on mental resilience and the challenge to you is to watch this
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documentary.
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So guys, there's a bunch of different ways that you can take down this documentary and
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take a look at it.
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So it's only two hours long and it's available for free if you have Amazon Prime or Hulu.
52:32
So if you pay for those description or subscriptions, but also you can rent or buy it on iTunes,
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YouTube, Amazon, Google Play, Voodoo, a lot of different places.
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And so I'm going to provide the links to all of those here in the description for this
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podcast.
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So you can make sure to go and do that.
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But guys, the challenge here is not just to watch it and then move on with your day and
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move on to your next show or just do your thing.
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Watch this and talk to somebody about it.
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So if you've got a best friend, make sure he can watch it.
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Maybe I'll watch it at the same time.
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Maybe I'll watch it separately, but get together and talk about it.
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I think this is really important.
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I challenge you earlier, if there is someone who's a little bit more on the feminist side
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of the issue, why don't you have her watch it?
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See what she thinks and just be okay with the fact that when y'all do come together for
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coffee or something like that, that perhaps this individual is not going to see it the
53:18
same way as you do.
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And that could be a woman or a man, right?
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So there are men that kind of fall on the feminist side of issues.
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So just be open to having that type of discussion.
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I think it'd be very beneficial for you.
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All right.
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53:52
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54:18
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I'm your host, Kyle Thompson.
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