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This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.
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I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
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Let's get into it.
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All right, guys, this week we're going to be talking about virtue signaling, okay?
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So you may have not heard that phrase before, but if you've been paying attention to anything
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in modern culture, modern politics or modern society, you may have heard that phrase being
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thrown around.
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So virtue signaling or moral posturing or something like that.
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But essentially what virtue signaling is, is it's publicly expressing your opinion or
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viewpoint, but fully with the intent of showing your superior morality or character to everybody
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else around you, okay?
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So we see this a lot in politics.
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We've seen it come up a lot, even recently in entertainment.
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And now we're even seeing it in sports, which used to be kind of sacred ground that nobody
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would trample on.
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But yeah, it's all over sports now as well.
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But it's kind of this very nefarious thing that people are doing to where it's just like,
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hey, everybody look at me and see how awesome I am and how virtuous I am.
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Everybody look at me and rain down praise.
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It's kind of something that we see a lot now and it's just, it's a really weird phenomenon.
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And I don't know where it started and I don't really, I, you can't really like point to
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a time in history where virtue signaling began, but it's just an incredible thing that it's
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so prevalent now and probably has a lot to do with the ubiquitous nature of social media
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and how easily somebody could convert you signal on certain things.
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And it's just kind of an epidemic.
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It's gotten to an epidemic proportion to where everything like every news story, every entertainment
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thing like there's, there's always a side to be on and there's a side not to be on.
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So, so, and it's in a, it's in a myriad of different major areas as well.
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Like, so if we look at culturally, culturally, so like race relations, so people made the
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movie Black Panther about race relations.
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So it couldn't just be a Marvel movie that people enjoy because they enjoy Marvel movies
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or because they like, you know, action movies or they like superhero movies.
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It became a statement that if you went and saw this movie, somehow you were, you were
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woke or it like express something to you in terms of gay rights, you know, you have to
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express how excited you are about the fact that Will and Grace is coming back to television
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and what that means for modern society.
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I guess you look at transgenderism and so we saw a lot of posturing and virtue signaling
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around the quote unquote courage of a guy like Caitlyn Jenner coming out as transgender,
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something like that, abortion would be another one.
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So you're sharing Planned Parenthood tweets and trying to say things about people that
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are on the anti-abortion side.
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But it's just pick an issue, pick a hot button issue and there is plenty of virtue signaling
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to go around.
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So one thing that I want to get into in terms of virtue signaling is also we're still in
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the middle of the gun debate.
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So I did that the podcast a couple of weeks ago now about the gun debate and it's really
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just continued constant with a lot of the ridiculous things being said, a lot of things
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that are untrue being just espoused from the mouths of television anchors and things like
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that.
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But essentially the side of the issue you were on, if you were on, you know, if you said
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something anti gun or anti AR 15 because we know that's an evil weapon, if it's an anti
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second amendment or you said something that was anti NRA, you were a hero.
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You got thousands and thousands of retweets on Twitter.
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You got thousands of thumbs up on Facebook and all that type of thing, but you just got
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to signal your virtue to everybody.
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Some of you remember the CNN town hall debate that they had after the shooting in Parkland
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and it was just, it was a crap show.
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It was ridiculous.
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Senator Marco Rubio and Dana Lash from the NRA, she was up there and it was just basically,
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let's take turns bashing these people who really had nothing to do with what happened
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in Florida.
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Right.
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It was just like, you know, there's blood on your hands.
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You even had that student that likened to Senator Rubio to the murder that that did the
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mass shooting.
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Then you had the news media continuously putting on anti gun students while completely ignoring
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pro second amendment students.
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So people that were in the Parkland shooting or were on campus that day, if they were on
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the anti side that I mean, they just can't be on television enough.
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All the major late night talk show hosts basically were virtue signaling talking about, you
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know, basically how much they care because they're on the anti gun side.
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You have businesses even like Dick's sporting goods saying that they won't sell assault style
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weapons like they can't even define what that means, but they won't sell assault style weapons
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at all.
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And they won't sell guns to people under the age of 21.
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And the same thing with Walmart, they kind of followed suit there.
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The interesting thing about the virtue signaling on the gun debate is the virtue signal, the
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person who's signaling, I'd rather is they're essentially saying, if you disagree with my
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point of view on the gun issue, then you're a child murderer, right.
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Like it's, it's just a crazy thing that they're saying.
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And I'm still waiting to be honest as a little side note, obviously I've said where I stand
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on the gun debate issue.
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I did an entire almost hour long podcast, or I think it was over hour long on this issue.
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And I've seen it to people that disagree with me.
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And I said, Hey, listen to this podcast and then follow up with me.
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Let's have a discussion.
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Like we don't have to have a debate.
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We can have a cordial discussion where we can agree to disagree at some point and still
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shake hands and leave his friends.
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And it's so funny because these people that are virtue signaling talking about how great
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they are for being anti gun don't want to talk to someone like me who's educated on
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the issue and just wants to have an honest discussion.
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That's the thing with this virtue signal culture is everyone's like, look at me, look
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at me like we just need to start the conversation, we need to bring awareness to this.
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But the moment you want to continue the conversation and bring even more awareness to the truth
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of the issue, then it's like, ah, that's off limits, right?
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So the gun debate has been right up in the middle of everyone's face.
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But then there's also the the Me Too movement, right?
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So that the hashtag Me Too movement, there's been a ton of virtue signaling there as well.
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So if you're not familiar with that movement, that was a hashtag that went viral in October
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of last year of 2017, that is.
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But it was in response to sexual harassment in the workplace.
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So mainly from men's men toward women, obviously, and it came on the heels of the Harvey Weinstein
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allegations and really the revelations about him.
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Once it became to the forefront, this is when this whole Me Too movement began.
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And so Weinstein, if you're not familiar with who he is, he's he's a major or was a major
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Hollywood filmmaker, but also he was a heinous sexual assault abuser, right?
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His behaviors sexually were just absolutely horrifying, right?
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And we've seen plenty of those stories.
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If you don't know what I'm talking about, go to Google, it's literally all over the place.
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But the thing about the hashtag, the hashtag Me Too thing, it started as a way to signal
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to others that you have been harmed too, that you had suffered some sort of wrong at the
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hands of a sexual predator or someone that really took advantage of you sexually.
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And that was the point.
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And it was a very, very positive point, like how could that not be positive?
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It's like, you know what, you may have been silenced and you may have felt like you couldn't
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speak up.
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And then all of a sudden with a hashtag and five letters behind it, you were good to go.
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Like you felt like you were part of a community and that there would be healing there.
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But it's kind of gotten out of hand now.
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So there's been plenty of stories of people that have claimed to be part of Me Too, but
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I haven't actually suffered anything themselves.
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It's mainly just an opportunity for people to be like, Hey, look at me.
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I am so progressive and I'm so advanced that I'm part of this movement as well.
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So you saw at the Grammys, I guess people were wearing all black clothes.
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So black tuxedo, but also black shirt, black tie in solidarity for the Me Too movement.
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There were no male presenters at the awards because apparently that, you know, fought
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the patriarchy or something like who knows.
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But interestingly enough, the reason why even was going to do this podcast, this wasn't
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even the subject matter I was going to discuss this week, but the Oscars, the 90th Oscar
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awards were our Academy Awards were this last Sunday, right?
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And so, I mean, you could have basically not called it the Oscars and called it the social
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justice warrior virtue signaling Olympics.
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Like it was just like, okay, we get it.
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And probably the reason why this became like the lowest rated Oscars of all time.
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I mean, there's been 90 of them.
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This is the lowest rated of all 90 was probably because people were expecting this to happen,
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right?
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They were expecting a lot of this to kind of go on, which basically a lot of people from
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stage are just going to be, you know, bashing our current president and bashing anyone who
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disagrees with them because we all know nothing says courage quite like being in a room full
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of people that think exactly like you do and saying something that they all already agree
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with you on like that's, but that's kind of what the night was.
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So the night started with Jimmy Kimmel, the host calling for all of these people in this
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room to be activists.
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So they can't just be people that do make pretend on film like they have to be activists
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somehow.
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And the thing that's very interesting as a little side note is all these Hollywood elites
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and millionaires are sitting in a room that's being protected by a bunch of good guys with
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guns on the outside.
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So that's cute.
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But we'll, we'll, I'll digress and go back in, but what's interesting about that body.
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So let's talk about that body of people that were in Hollywood basically pointing out themselves
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for how advanced and progressed they are basically on the favor of culture, right?
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This body, you know, kind of disinvited Ryan Seacrest from the event because of some alleged
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sexual assaults, Casey Affleck apparently was going to be presenting an award that evening,
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but he was, you know, disinvited or not allowed to present the award because of some alleged
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sexual assaults, assaults.
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But this is also the body of people, right, Hollywood, Hollywood elites that stamped
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out, you know, Harvey Weinstein or Weinstein from Hollywood existence, right?
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They just completely dispelled this guy.
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So it's like, Oh man, like this is the group, right?
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This is a group that's going to, you know, drain the swamp to steal from Trump.
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But like this is a group that's going to get that done.
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But all the posturing around this issue kind of begs the question, which was, where have
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all of you been for the last several decades?
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Like where you been Hollywood?
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Like you just want to point at yourself right now for how progressive and great you are.
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But what about the casting couch?
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Like if you're not familiar with the casting couch, this was like a phenomenon in Hollywood
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and it was just kind of like this tongue in cheek joke between amongst all those people
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there, which was a lot of roles have been doled out to women who basically doled out their
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privates to men who, you know, we're funding the movies, right?
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You know, even Mary Lemon Road, there's references to her on the casting couch like so basically
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give a guy a blow job and you get a, you know, role in a movie, right?
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So where were all of you guys and all you people talking about me too and we got to protect
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our women during the casting couch stuff, which is not like a thing of the past.
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Like I can't imagine it doesn't still happen, right?
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And then look, look at Roman Polanski, all right, so Roman Polanski is a famous director,
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has done a lot of different movies and in the 70s, in 1977 actually, he sexually assaulted
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a 13 year old girl, right, a 13 year old girl.
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And then when he found out that he was very likely going to have to serve a prison sentence
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for sexually assaulting a 13 year old, he fled the country and hasn't been back since, right?
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But this same body of people that's pointing at themselves for how great they are and how
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much virtue they are or that they all have rather, they gave this man a standing ovation
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in 2002 when he won Best Director for the movie, the pianist, they gave him a standing ovation,
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a guy who admitted to sexually assaulting a 13 year old girl, standing ovation, just virtuous,
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just awesome, right.
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And let's look at it this way as well.
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So let's go back to Harvey Weinstein a little bit.
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The LA Times, I think reported this, but Harvey Weinstein was thanked during 1993 to 2016.
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I believe those were the dates from, but from 1993 to 2016, Weinstein was thanked on stage
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at the Oscars more times than God was, like kind of by a considerable margin.
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Like this guy made so many careers, like think of all the films that you've watched that
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are Miramax productions, like he founded Miramax, right?
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But here's the crazy thing, right?
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This entire time that Weinstein has been operating in Hollywood, everyone knew that he was a
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sexual monster.
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Everyone knew that.
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So the entire time they were saying, thank you to this great man who's given him all
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the opportunities and gosh, I couldn't have done this without you and all that kind of
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stuff.
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They knew who he was.
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Like this wasn't a revelation to anyone in Hollywood.
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It was only revelations to people like us that didn't know this guy personally because
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everyone who ever worked with this man knew exactly what he was about, right?
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So it's just, it's such a weird kind of discombobulated thing in these people's brains, like many
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of the men and women in the crowd.
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So the people that work in Hollywood and do these movies, many of them made their careers
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by doing movies that had incredibly sexually explicit content in them, right?
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Think about all the women superstars that you know, some of their early roles.
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And the only reason why they got those is because they were topless and usually like
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doing some sort of softcore porn grinding on top of some other actor, right?
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Like many, many of these people have made their money, like all their big blockbuster
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movies were ones where gun violence was glorified, right?
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Like think of all these people that are like, oh, we know we got to control guns, but it's
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like, well, not unless I got a bread in this, this movie, I got to shoot like, I guess I
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can do it then, right?
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Well, if I need to use an AR because I'm doing a doing some sort of role that requires that,
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I guess that gun's okay then, right?
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So it's just such a weird thing.
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There's like this disconnect in the brain that there's signaling virtue, but they're
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not acting upon it, which we'll get more and more into that here in a second.
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But then let's go back to this whole group, this whole Oscar group, but really the whole
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film industry.
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There was kind of an awkward run up to the Oscars because of a movie called Call Me By
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Your Name.
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And there's no reason why I should even know that this movie exists because much like much
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of the awards that were up, or the movies that were up for awards on Sundays, nobody's
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ever heard of them.
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And no one's ever seen them, right?
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But this movie was released before kind of the hashtag #MeToo movement.
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So before October of 2017, but this is a story, a movie that is about an adult man engaging
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in a courtship and a sexual relationship with a minor.
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Okay.
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So in case you missed that, I'll repeat it.
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It's an adult man engaging in a courtship and then eventually a sexual relationship with
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a minor.
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That is the point of the movie.
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So regardless of cinematography, regardless of casting, regardless of directorial debuts
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or any of those types of things, that was the crux of the movie, right?
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Now what did the critics say about such a movie?
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They called it things everything from masterpiece to instant classic, super important groundbreaking,
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right?
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An adult man having a sexual relationship with a minor.
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But again, they can virtue signal here because the minor was a boy.
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And so they can kind of virtue signal to kind of the gay rights activist people or, hey,
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we're so progressive that this is somehow okay to do that because it's too men by man.
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Like, so Hollywood was just slobbering all over this movie and it was going to be getting
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all these awards, but then the Harvey Weinstein stuff comes out and everything gets a little
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bit weird, gets a little bit awkward.
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So this movie kind of goes to the back burner, right?
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And so if you're Hollywood, you think, well, good, we dodged a bullet on that one.
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Like we all kind of went balls deep on this movie and thought it was going to be the greatest
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thing ever and everybody could point to this and we could all be so great and so progressive.
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But then they kind of shot themselves in the foot last night.
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So if you're watching it all, I mean, even if you weren't watching, even if you just
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follow like bleacher report or ESPN on your phone, everyone's getting updates about Kobe
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Bryant, Kobe Bryant won an Oscar last night.
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So he had a role in doing this documentary about kind of the end of his career.
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And so it was a little short documentary and the documentary ended up winning.
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So on the Me Too movement night, right?
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So this is like Hollywood telling everybody how we should feel about women and not silencing
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those women.
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Here they were giving an award to a man who paid off his sexual accuser, right?
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His sexual assault accuser paid them off millions of dollars to silence them.
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And there's there's a lot of details there that you don't really necessarily need to
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get into.
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But the reality of what happened there is Kobe Bryant paid millions of dollars to a woman
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that claimed that he raped her, right?
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But paid the millions.
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Girl doesn't get to tell her story.
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She goes silent.
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Kobe Bryant gets to win a few more championships.
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Now he gets to win Oscars and everybody thinks he's great, right?
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Gosh, it was just awkward.
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It was like right in the middle of this whole Me Too empowerment thing, we're just going
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to give an award to that guy.
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I mean, here's the thing is it was even with all this, the virtue signal here is essentially
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saying if you disagree with my point of view on the Me Too movement, you're for the rape
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of women.
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And yet you give awards to people that raped underage girls, you know, athletes that allegedly
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allegedly raped someone in a hotel room in Colorado.
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Like, is that really what we're going to do?
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So the thing is, is everybody wants to be celebrated for their virtue, right?
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Like, I mean, if you just think about it, just in the basic terms that we would love
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to be celebrated for our virtue, but we wanted to be celebrated without any baseline understanding
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of what virtue is, like we want to signal virtue without even knowing what it is.
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And so basically, if we break it down to its most basic level, so if we go even back to
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the Greek, you know, whenever Plato and Aristotle, when they were even thinking through a virtue
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is, it's moral excellence, right?
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Moral excellence.
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Now a generation or two ago, morality was pretty good to see or pretty easy to see, right?
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We can kind of, we kind of knew what morality was.
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There wasn't a whole lot of question of what morality was.
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But now in 2018, we live in such a pluralistic society that pluralism has caused issues with
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all morality becoming relative, right?
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So what's moral for you may not be moral for me.
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And what's moral for me may not be moral for the guy on the other side of the room, right?
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So when we started looking at this, it was really the Romans that kind of really looked
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at virtue super intently in the word that they used in Latin was Virtus.
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So I found a little, a quick few sentences online that kind of, I thought did a really
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good job of summing up kind of the Roman political philosophy around Virtus or Virtus.
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So I'm going to read that here.
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Virtus comes from the aristocratic tradition in which it is a specific type of public
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conduct.
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It is really only applicable in the curses honorum, certainly by the late republic at
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least.
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It is not a private virtue in the way that modern people might consider it.
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Valor, courage, and manliness are not things that can be pursued in the private sphere
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of the individual or the individual's private concerns.
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There could be no virtue in exploiting one's manliness in the pursuit of personal wealth,
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for example.
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Virtus is exercised in the pursuit of Gloria, which stands for glory, for the benefit of
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the rest publica, so the public, resulting in the winning of eternal memoriam, okay?
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According to DC Earl, outside the service of the rest publica, there can be no magistratis,
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which is just magistrate, and therefore strictly speaking, no Gloria, no Nobilitas, no Virtus.
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So if you're not serving in a public capacity, according to this Roman philosophy, strictly
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there is no way you can be magistrate.
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You can't have glory, you can't have nobility, and you can't have virtue.
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So there's a lot of questions that can come up here in terms of virtue, but the one question
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that kept really bothering me was, can you have virtue and be an atheist?
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Because again, we talk about, you know, I know people who aren't religious, but they're
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really moral people, all that, you know, people kind of get into that.
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But I mean, when you talk about virtualism, or, you know, basically having virtue and
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being an atheist is, I guess you could say yes, that you could have virtue and be an
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atheist.
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But how do you define what's bad?
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So again, you're a virtuous atheist.
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How do you define what bad is?
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Okay, because if you say there is such a thing as bad, you have to say there is such a thing
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as good, right? Like, you know, yin and yang, or whatever you believe in, right?
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There's got to be an opposite side to bad, which we normally just call that good.
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But if you accept that premise, how do you answer the question of morality, right?
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If all morality is relative, of course, then whose morality will we base our virtue on?
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I mean, I think that's a really, really important question.
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If morality is relative, right, what's what's true for you may not be true for me, then
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whose morality will we base virtue on, especially if we're going to signal to it, right?
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Now let's just say what if there is a supreme morality out there, right?
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So we know certain things are wrong, right?
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They're just wrong, wrong, wrong, and we know certain things are right, like no matter
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what, they're right, right, right.
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If there's a supreme morality out there, don't you think we could call that a moral law?
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Like maybe we have a moral law.
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And if so, can we say that there is a moral law giver?
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Because where does morality come from?
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That's one thing that these evolutionary biologists and naturalists and materialists,
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they can't really explain is where did morality come from, right?
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And I've talked about that a lot on another podcast, so I'm not going to drill too much
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deeper in that.
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But it's just like, where do you get your explanations for morality?
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Where do you get your explanations for good or bad, right?
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But for us, as Christian men, our moral law giver is God, right?
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Like that is our moral law giver and Jesus is our best example of virtue, right?
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So the thing is, is in order to know good, you know, in the terms of, you know, good or
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bad or good and evil, in order to know good, there must be morality, right?
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And there is no morality without virtue.
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In turn, there is no virtue apart from God.
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That's what we believe and that's the life that we need to lead, right?
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So my encouragement to the men of God listening to this is to be virtuous, right?
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Seek opportunities to be virtuous, but, you know, shirk the opportunities to point to
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it.
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Okay.
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Because one thing we didn't see in the life of Jesus, who is our model, we didn't see
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a lot of pointing going on towards himself, right?
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Hey, everybody look at me, I need everybody to hear my story because if you hear my story,
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you're going to think, whoa, this guy is so awesome.
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Like that's not the point of it.
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He was doing it to teach people.
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He was modeling his life.
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There's a lot of hints in the Bible that Jesus was maybe a little bit shy.
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Like, yeah, he, you know, he did a lot of things in public because that's kind of how
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your ministry has to be.
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But he did get in seclusion a lot of times because he wanted to go be, be with God and
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kind of have that, you know, that direct line with God, right?
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And so for us as men, we need to look to Jesus as our example, we need to look to the
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gospel accounts of his life to see how the most virtuous man ever was able to just model
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virtue without pointing to it.
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Okay.
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Because here's the deal, guys.
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If you actually have virtue, you don't need to signal it.
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Okay.
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Now, before we wrap up here, guys, we're going to do a quick resilience boost.
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As you know, by now, we are a men's ministry and our mission is cultivating manly resilience.
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And specifically, we do that by providing content to you all that forges spiritual, mental
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and physical toughness.
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So kind of a lighter subject matter for you today.
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I'm going to give you a little bit of a mental resilience boost.
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So there's a group out there called Wolf and Iron.
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They do, you know, podcast and a bunch of devotionals and stuff from men.
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So they did a, a, a article called the mainly virtues of Ron Swanson.
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So Ron Swanson is probably one of my favorite characters in the history of television.
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So he's on the television show Parks and Recreation.
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So if you're a Netflix person and you have not seen that show, I highly, highly recommend
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it.
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It's some incredible acting and just really good character development on all these people.
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And Ron Swanson's kind of like the, the manly, simple anti-government libertarian, meditarian
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type of guy.
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And so that, that's just it's, but it's a really well done article.
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So if you're familiar with who Ron Swanson is, you'll get a, you'll get a kick out of
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it because of the different things that they talk about.
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But even if you're not, even if you have no idea what Parks and Recreation is, you've
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never heard of that character or Nick Offerman, the actor, it doesn't really matter.
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It's still some good things that just kind of remind us how we can be virtuous.
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So definitely check that out, the link to that is going to be in the description.
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I'm your host, Kyle Thompson.
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Remember, keep cultivating manly resilience, keep forging spiritual, mental, and physical
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toughness.
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Keep seeking the Lion of June.